The Manchester United Thread

The end to push for goals was strange. Everyone was pushed so high. No one dropping back to help Scott get some decent passes going around. Considering how good pass Bruno and Pogba can create for their attackers who have very good movment. Seeing 5 big names pushed so high waiting for Scott and defenders create something for them was just frustrating I assume.

Sums up the game
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/pzv0vl
 
Bujakaa92 said:
The end to push for goals was strange. Everyone was pushed so high. No one dropping back to help Scott get some decent passes going around. Considering how good pass Bruno and Pogba can create for their attackers who have very good movment. Seeing 5 big names pushed so high waiting for Scott and defenders create something for them was just frustrating I assume.

Sums up the game
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/pzv0vl
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You gotta admit, that was a perfectly executed zig zag
 
Ole honestly looks grateful to just be in the same dugout as Ronaldo. Sack him off and get Conte in. He’ll make you title challengers instantly. Obvious decision.
 
AlcIsBack said:
Ole honestly looks grateful to just be in the same dugout as Ronaldo. Sack him off and get Conte in. He’ll make you title challengers instantly. Obvious decision.
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I know he out up a 93 point season but you honestly think Conte could get 90/95 plus points from a squad thats broke 80 once since Ferguson?
 
Its really not that simple. There are hierarchy that needs to be respected. Would someone like Conte want to work with football directors at United? I'm afraid Conte creates more problem then he solves.
 
Vanjagl said:
Its really not that simple. There are hierarchy that needs to be respected. Would someone like Conte want to work with football directors at United? I'm afraid Conte creates more problem then he solves.
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Hows respecting the hierachy been working at United since Ferguson left? Zero league titles or Champions Leagues. Never even once has the club looked like genuine title challengers either. For all the money spent, thats atrocious.

Conte would shock the entire system like he did at Juventus and revive the club.
 
Vanjagl said:
Its really not that simple. There are hierarchy that needs to be respected. Would someone like Conte want to work with football directors at United? I'm afraid Conte creates more problem then he solves.
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Jup. More often fans only compare gameplay and tactics *how well would our team suit up so we'll with him". But reality there are so many factors what's happening at the background and managers not moving into certain clubs.

Sure Conte tactics could fit very well and improve players, but the clash inside the club could be immense also. But you could never know. Maybe it would work :D
 
AlcIsBack said:
Hows respecting the hierachy been working at United since Ferguson left? Zero league titles or Champions Leagues. Never even once has the club looked like genuine title challengers either. For all the money spent, thats atrocious.

Conte would shock the entire system like he did at Juventus and revive the club.
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We can say whatever we want, that structure isn't going to change because of that. You either agree to work with people who Glazers trust or you don't get the job.
 
Bujakaa92 said:
Jup. More often fans only compare gameplay and tactics *how well would our team suit up so we'll with him". But reality there are so many factors what's happening at the background and managers not moving into certain clubs.

Sure Conte tactics could fit very well and improve players, but the clash inside the club could be immense also. But you could never know. Maybe it would work :D
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Even tactical Conte ain't similar to Solskjaer. Could it work? Maybe, maybe not. There would be period of adjusting for sure. I'm afraid the moment Glazers gave Ole new 3 year deal, he's stuck as a manager till the end of the season. I ain't calling for his head yet, but results are dreadful. Players he has are as good as any.

Ten Hag is my personal favorite. He's playing modern, exciting football and personnel at United is similar to one at Ajax.
 
I do chuckle at certain United fans who'd claim Conte wouldn't fit this team. I mean, we have a gaffe that doesn't even know what to do with the team. It almost feels as if he just inherited the team 2 months ago and is having to work out his best XI or tactics.

Unacceptable.
 
Isn't it funny how Conte became what Mourinho used to be, he guarantees trophies and then self implodes within 2 years.
 
Legend Incredible said:
It isn't the same squad however.
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It isn't significantly better now either IMHO for the absurd money spent on it but we've had that discussion and it's subjective.

Any club hiring Conte needs to decide if they want to try win now, ala when you madly hire Mourinho who the game has LONG since passed by. Or whether you want to build something for hopefully sustained success.

If it's the former, he's your man. For me, United should be looking at the latter and I think he'd be the worst possible move Utd could possibly make if they made a change. The complete antipathies of what the PE Teacher is that would just muddle things further at a club with absolutely no identity to begin with at present.

The real sad thing is this all probably a moot discussion as top 4 is probably all Ole needs to continue on after this year. Regardless of what the fanbase thinks. That's all the Glazers are arsed about. CL money they can reap off. And the Ronaldo X-factor should guarantee him a top-4 finish.

Whereas when your squad was assembled for more money than anyone else's, with Ronaldo's wages now added to boot, nothing less than winning the League should be acceptable.

It's a horrible situation Utd is in that will never change until the Glazers are gone.
 
i would give the guy from brighton a go play some really good football and with the players we have he would do a far better job than that clown ole but has long as he gets top 4 hes still in a job what a joke
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
It isn't significantly better now either IMHO for the absurd money spent on it but we've had that discussion and it's subjective.

Any club hiring Conte needs to decide if they want to try win now, ala when you madly hire Mourinho who the game has LONG since passed by. Or whether you want to build something for hopefully sustained success.

If it's the former, he's your man. For me, United should be looking at the latter and I think he'd be the worst possible move Utd could possibly make if they made a change. The complete antipathies of what the PE Teacher is that would just muddle things further at a club with absolutely no identity to begin with at present.

The real sad thing is this all probably a moot discussion as top 4 is probably all Ole needs to continue on after this year. Regardless of what the fanbase thinks. That's all the Glazers are arsed about. CL money they can reap off. And the Ronaldo X-factor should guarantee him a top-4 finish.

Whereas when your squad was assembled for more money than anyone else's, with Ronaldo's wages now added to boot, nothing less than winning the League should be acceptable.

It's a horrible situation Utd is in that will never change until the Glazers are gone.
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I agree. He doesn't suit the team and his tactics don't suit our players (unless he completely changes his style). I mentioned it during an earlier conversation last year too and I echo it again, not a fan of Conte at United.

But the depressing part is, yes, Top-4 means OGS could potentially retain his position, and that is worrying. The lack of progress visible on the pitch has been worrying and three years down the line, I still don't know if I could guess what our tactics are going to be (and accordingly, who the personnel we target are going to be).

It seems too random, the press is half hearted, no set attacking patterns, struggle to do much with higher possession, McFred pivot - way too many things that exist an issue with, tactically.
 
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