Ama-Zing™ 4-2-4: The new Attacking Possession tactic by Raikan007

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mover23 said:
Hi Raikan, great tactic and have been using your tactics with great success on my own but struggle a bit in network games. Playing as Chelsea in a network game, wondering which of your tactics will best suit my team...


I like Swoop & was considering Amazing but you have soooo many that seem to be succesful


Cech, Courtois


Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Rapa, Cole, Bertrand, Van Ahnholt


Alex, Terry, Luiz,


Romeu, Essien, Mikel, Borysuik, Meireles, Ramires, Thiago, Lampard, Sigurdson,


Willian, Teixteira, Stuuridge, Jovetic, Mata, Fleck


Lukaku, Torres, Cavani
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Home games:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...session-ccc-tactic-raikan007.html#post1493119

Away games:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...98200-target-man-winger-tactic-raikan007.html

Both home and away depending on Opp:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...ining/92151-raikan007s-awesome-amc-433-a.html
 
Thought I would jump on here. I d/l'ed this tactic (a-maz-ing) and took Grimsby from BS to League 1 where I got DESTROYED and relegated and mostly had to use other tactics to avoid giving up 5+ goals a game. I left Grimsby and went to Russian League 1 where I had some success early on with A-maz-ing and then in my next full season, I, once again, got DESTROYED using this tactic, often giving up 5+ goals a game but only when playing superior competition. Against inferior teams, I would crush them...well at least for awhile and then even that went away. I have stopped using it now.

From my observations, many of these tactics work because the teams most people choose to play are so good to begin with. Liverpool, United, Chelsea? You could win with almost any tactic since the players you attract are the cream of the crop. In lower leagues your D-men just can't get back in this formation and your mids will turn the ball over into suicidal situations.

I have moved to some other formations I have found on this site and am having better success with them. YMMV.
 
TakedaLegout said:
Thought I would jump on here. I d/l'ed this tactic (a-maz-ing) and took Grimsby from BS to League 1 where I got DESTROYED and relegated and mostly had to use other tactics to avoid giving up 5+ goals a game. I left Grimsby and went to Russian League 1 where I had some success early on with A-maz-ing and then in my next full season, I, once again, got DESTROYED using this tactic, often giving up 5+ goals a game but only when playing superior competition. Against inferior teams, I would crush them...well at least for awhile and then even that went away. I have stopped using it now.

From my observations, many of these tactics work because the teams most people choose to play are so good to begin with. Liverpool, United, Chelsea? You could win with almost any tactic since the players you attract are the cream of the crop. In lower leagues your D-men just can't get back in this formation and your mids will turn the ball over into suicidal situations.

I have moved to some other formations I have found on this site and am having better success with them. YMMV.
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All of Raikan's tactics produce realistic results whilst over-achieving without any exploits so you cannot expect to go away to teams better than you and expect to beat them convincingly. In addition, he does not use the "corner bug" to score an unrealistic amount of goals from corners whereas a lot of others do. Just my 2 cents worth :)
 
I am using the one touch for home and the target man for away its just amazing! I won the 2nd german league with frankfurt 20 points clear and semis of the nat'l cup.
2nd season spent 30m... am 1st after 26 games 7 pts clear :P and semis again but still got to play it .. just awesome!
 
Raikan007 said:
Home games:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...session-ccc-tactic-raikan007.html#post1493119

Away games:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...98200-target-man-winger-tactic-raikan007.html

Both home and away depending on Opp:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...ining/92151-raikan007s-awesome-amc-433-a.html
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thanx for your advice Raikan, Target Man Winger hasn't started off too well though.... lost all 4 away games so far. But Rome wasn't build in a day so hoping that's the case for me. Lost the title though :-(

you said awesome amc depending on opp....what did you mean by that.....good against top teams? or bad ?
 
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I have one question Raikan. This tactic is superb as it it. But I have one little problem. Playing with Man City and I have Aguero,Tevez and Fierro. Tevez is playing very good as DLF, but he is getting old and since I have Fierro who has potencial to be one of the best strikers in the game, I will rotate them. However both Fierro and Aguero aren't DLF, more of a poachers, so should I just change DLF role into Poacher and make some changes to player instructions? This means I would play with two poachers upfront which isnt' such a good combination as DLF+Poacher. I'm sure about that. The second options is that I change DLF role into Trequartista-which is similar role to DLF. And I would have Aguero as Trequartista and Fierro as Poacher. Which combination is better? Please help me.
 
mover23 said:
thanx for your advice Raikan, Target Man Winger hasn't started off too well though.... lost all 4 away games so far. But Rome wasn't build in a day so hoping that's the case for me. Lost the title though :-(

you said awesome amc depending on opp....what did you mean by that.....good against top teams? or bad ?
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sorry to hear that mate, are you playing deeper/rigid and on the counter away from home though?? not as the tactic comes?

yeah, depending on the opp! :) its a good tactic, been using it lately again :) maybe give it a shot
 
Renato10 said:
I have one question Raikan. This tactic is superb as it it. But I have one little problem. Playing with Man City and I have Aguero,Tevez and Fierro. Tevez is playing very good as DLF, but he is getting old and since I have Fierro who has potencial to be one of the best strikers in the game, I will rotate them. However both Fierro and Aguero aren't DLF, more of a poachers, so should I just change DLF role into Poacher and make some changes to player instructions? This means I would play with two poachers upfront which isnt' such a good combination as DLF+Poacher. I'm sure about that. The second options is that I change DLF role into Trequartista-which is similar role to DLF. And I would have Aguero as Trequartista and Fierro as Poacher. Which combination is better? Please help me.
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hey bud :) glad its going well!

I would do the Treq/Poacher combo rather, you need someone to drop into the pocket to play in the poacher! Make the treq the playmaker as well, see if that gets him involved more in the build up play and assists :)
 
Renato10 said:
Okay then I will do so, but can you please help me with player instrucitons for that role. Should I change anything or should I left as is it for DLF?
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leave as is :) maybe a little more creative freedom and if roam from position is not ticked, tick it :)
 
wondering about the BDP position mate, playing with man united, wich defender do i use in that position? can i use Vidic there? after looking very hard through the transfer marked i can only find 1 player with the right stats and thats the one your using in the tottenham game you have, Jan verthongen. IF i where to change the players role to suit the players ive got better, to wich should i go? thx again m8
 
Mate,in 1st page raikan written,that is not neccessary good ball playing defender just good centreback.

BTW This tactic will work fantastic for my milan,silva as cover and nesta/vertonghen as ballplaying.

This tactic is crazy :D
 
Runeaa said:
wondering about the BDP position mate, playing with man united, wich defender do i use in that position? can i use Vidic there? after looking very hard through the transfer marked i can only find 1 player with the right stats and thats the one your using in the tottenham game you have, Jan verthongen. IF i where to change the players role to suit the players ive got better, to wich should i go? thx again m8
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Definitely not Vidic mate :)

Leave both on CB - Defend :)
 
Raikan,about shouts,can i use at beginning,or when is tactic fluid?I am sking because,i read it that using shouts when is tactic not fluid can have negative effect.
 
Ok, 2 cb defend.. was also thinking about using a defensive version of Short and Sweet as my away tactic, any pointers on how to do that mate? counter or controll? Also, i think ive seen you comment on some nice tweaks to create more CCC with the Ama-zing tactic! Change the passing of center midfielders to more direct and up the tempo? thx again ; ) PS: when i use both center defenders as CB-Defend, offside trap ticks, do i keep it on or of?
 
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Raikan007 said:
sorry to hear that mate, are you playing deeper/rigid and on the counter away from home though?? not as the tactic comes?

yeah, depending on the opp! :) its a good tactic, been using it lately again :) maybe give it a shot
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Nah I wasn't using deeper or rigid but was using counter, hopefully that will make the difference...i'm in pre season now so will try it out fully....sure the results will pick up.

thanx mate.....will keep u posted

My real test is keeping Torres fit....i'm half tempted to sell him & buy another poacher but haven't got clue who. Got about £50m to spend though. I don't think Jovetic or Sturridge can fill the void.
 
dinho80 said:
Raikan,about shouts,can i use at beginning,or when is tactic fluid?I am sking because,i read it that using shouts when is tactic not fluid can have negative effect.
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I issue them during team talks before the game even starts! when you go up a few you can take off the more attacking ones and issue more defensive ones ;)
 
Runeaa said:
Ok, 2 cb defend.. was also thinking about using a defensive version of Short and Sweet as my away tactic, any pointers on how to do that mate? counter or controll? Also, i think ive seen you comment on some nice tweaks to create more CCC with the Ama-zing tactic! Change the passing of center midfielders to more direct and up the tempo? thx again ; ) PS: when i use both center defenders as CB-Defend, offside trap ticks, do i keep it on or of?
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yes keep it on :)

you can drop the one cm into the dm position and the amc to cm :) increase time wasting as well!

this is when you want to see out the game though
 
mover23 said:
Nah I wasn't using deeper or rigid but was using counter, hopefully that will make the difference...i'm in pre season now so will try it out fully....sure the results will pick up.

thanx mate.....will keep u posted

My real test is keeping Torres fit....i'm half tempted to sell him & buy another poacher but haven't got clue who. Got about £50m to spend though. I don't think Jovetic or Sturridge can fill the void.
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Vagner Love - Flamengo is a fantastic poacher!

I could name you dozens more but check him out, he plays even better than his stats suggest and they are impressive!
 
two questions: does this work away from home and does it work with the new patch(12.2.2)?
 
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