Assaid earlier i Barca bid 50m r Fabregas straight away,Arsenal will deffnetly negotiate to get a higher price, they bid 30m for him as a basis for further negiotiations just like Chelsea bid 30m for Torres knowing full well they wont get him at that price and will have to negotiate
Barcelona after Messi, Xavi and Iniesta - Your view
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Assaid earlier i Barca bid 50m r Fabregas straight away,Arsenal will deffnetly negotiate to get a higher price, they bid 30m for him as a basis for further negiotiations just like Chelsea bid 30m for Torres knowing full well they wont get him at that price and will have to negotiate
what started as an off topic (admittedly the opening point wasnt that interesting and was too speculative), but intelligent debate, is starting to turn into something a bit farcial. a lot of arguments based on wild assumptions
So Spain, Barca had a big say on 22 FIFA officials? Why do all the officials support Pep or Rosell?
It is simple. Qataris paid handsome money to FIFA, if you cant see that, i feel for you mate..
More like you are refusing to take in the obvious facts.
My hatred for Barca goes a long way back. They've been unsettling and eyeing our players for years and years, obviously they want to be like us. Overmars, Sylvinho, Hleb, Henry, etc. And now that they've gone for their own youth players, they act as if they invented the academy approach, when Wenger has been doing it since 1997.
And my hatred for them is about fair play as well. The one thing I hate the most in sports is when someone isn't playing fair. It makes the sport pointless. Any team that is on the verge of bankruptcy but still can buy players for £40m, and PAY someone to have their logo on their shirts, is corrupt and isn't playing fair.
Just because there aren't any 100% trustworthy documents showing the corruption doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
And yes, other clubs are corrupt as well. Barca says they are "more than a club", I say the motto should be "no més de la corrupció".
In an attacking sense, yes. In a controlling and dictating the play sense, no.
More like you are refusing to take in the obvious facts.
My hatred for Barca goes a long way back. They've been unsettling and eyeing our players for years and years, obviously they want to be like us. Overmars, Sylvinho, Hleb, Henry, etc. And now that they've gone for their own youth players, they act as if they invented the academy approach, when Wenger has been doing it since 1997.
And my hatred for them is about fair play as well. The one thing I hate the most in sports is when someone isn't playing fair. It makes the sport pointless. Any team that is on the verge of bankruptcy but still can buy players for £40m, and PAY someone to have their logo on their shirts, is corrupt and isn't playing fair.
Just because there aren't any 100% trustworthy documents showing the corruption doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
And yes, other clubs are corrupt as well. Barca says they are "more than a club", I say the motto should be "no més de la corrupció".
again u act as if your the only club who has ever been wronged in the whole galaxy, oh yes i forgot i was talking to the pro-Wenger (El Whiner) fans
If this was true, Barca would have bought Kaka instead.
More like you are refusing to take in the obvious facts.
My hatred for Barca goes a long way back. They've been unsettling and eyeing our players for years and years, obviously they want to be like us. Overmars, Sylvinho, Hleb, Henry, etc. And now that they've gone for their own youth players, they act as if they invented the academy approach, when Wenger has been doing it since 1997.
And my hatred for them is about fair play as well. The one thing I hate the most in sports is when someone isn't playing fair. It makes the sport pointless. Any team that is on the verge of bankruptcy but still can buy players for £40m, and PAY someone to have their logo on their shirts, is corrupt and isn't playing fair.
Just because there aren't any 100% trustworthy documents showing the corruption doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
And yes, other clubs are corrupt as well. Barca says they are "more than a club", I say the motto should be "no més de la corrupció".
If you show me 'obvious facts' then maybe i'll believe you, but you haven't even done that.
And yes, Barcelona must want to be like Arsenal, despite being so much better? Yeah, i can reaaaaally see the logic in that oO)
Manchester United are in quite a bit of debt, yet still spend a fair amount each summer? But because they're not Barcelona, i guess it doesn't matter...
Nope, plenty of clubs have been wronged by Barca, we're not the only ones. Thanks for pointing that out. =)
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Wanting to have the same structure, financial wisdom and general approach doesn't mean you have to play worse. Not that I think Barcelona is better than Arsenal, but still.
Of course it matters, but this thread is about Barca, not Man Utd.
Kaka is Brazillian.
Fabregas is Catalan
Still i dont agree with Kaka > Fabregas as we haven't seen Kaka's best for 3 years now.
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Bigger stadium, Bigger fan base globally and locally, Bigger trophy cabinet, still they want to be Arsenal.. :S
Don't be so naive.
At the time, Barca had no need for Kaka, they had Yaya, Iniesta and Xavi, so why spend 56m on a player they don't need.
Now, as Xavi is getting older they are planning for his replacement and want Fabregas.
Kaka has won the Serie A, Cl, Italian Cup and numerous individual awards such as the World Player of the Year for inspiring Milan to the CL
Fabregas has won the FA Cup and..... oh yeah the Community Shield and.... Emirates Cup ofcourse
Some of the best logic yet
Kaka's age is against him with regards to Barcelona, and the fact Fabregas is Spanish weighs greatly in his favour
Some of your views are laughable at times.
La Masia is clearly more of a success than the Arsenal academy - hence why the majority of the title winning team is made up of academy players.
They may have took the idea of your structure, but they've certainly developed it into a more successful foundation - of course apart from the financial side.
yeah they will have youngsters that will step us as where did Xavi Iniesta and Messi come from?
And they already have who they believe to be the next Messi his name is "Jean Marrie Dongou" he may only be 16 but they believe he will be brilliant and recently made the step up to the U19 playing in th first team shame he is not in FM
Dont bring United into this mud fight.
There is no club as unlucky as us when it comes to finance. We absolutely rule the world when it comes to revenue, still we are in debt which is no way fault of ours.
We dont use any sugar dady's money. Its the opposite. We are self sustained club, and in the same time feeding the leeches too..