and in 11 years he seems to have forgot all that. plus you can be very very sucessful playing that way in Italy. Its the culture of Italian football
yea i know! but it couldnt hurt!
and about Del Bosque....have you been listening to the fifa 12 comentary for that bit? And the in the starting 11 are 7-8 Barcelona players...hardly need to bring them together
Little details? Wonderful. That's just super. Now can we focus our attention on something actually useful, like say the massive gulf in technical quality between us and continental nations? Or perhaps our grassroots system's rewarding of big players over good ones?
[B said:Tyton;1437946]Euro 96 wont happen again because the rest of the world have caught up physically. Not being a Brit i can tell you that in the early 90s we feared playing vs. England , they had stamina to go for 120 minutes and our players attempting to fight for a cross in penalty area 9 out 10 times bounced back 5 meters from the likes of Tony Adams. Not so much anymore[/B].
lol you really have taken my minor point far too far now.
and if we do have that major gulf in technical ability like you just said...then why do we try to use our 'poor' technical qualities above everything else we've gt going for us as Capello tried to?
NO ive been following Del Bosque since his Madrid days. The reason he has been so succesful for spain is the same reason he one of Madrids most succesful managers, creating a balance of egos, and uniting them under a coherent tactical plan that covers their weaknesses and plays their strengths.
Not sure what that has to with FIFA 12, since ive never owned it.
Howver i can see you've decided to try and make childish jibes rather than come up with a salient point.
My point.....exactly..... thank you
Because going out in a rigid 4-4-2 and 'using our natural advantages' (i.e. running around like headless chickens) is totally, completely outdated and ineffective in modern top-level football. If there's one thing Spain would LIKE us to do, it is that.
...your point is that the rest of the nations have mostly caught up with us physically and trying to use our supposed physical advantage in the style of Euro 96 is stupid?
no....that we used to be feared....used to be
Oh for the love of...
I'm out.
Oh for the love of god. Just been watching Puss In Boots, come on here, and seen this. I need a drink. Seriously.
Join the club. Started drinking myself into a stupor because of misery once this 'debate' started
Rofl.
Anyway, Nick.
This is how i would line up against Holland
4-2-3-1
Hart
Richards Smalling Lescott Cole
Carrick Parker
Sturridge Gerrard Young
Welbeck
The aim of Carrick and Parker is to maitain possession. by sitting slightly deeper they compress the area in which RVP likes to drop into, and also look to sit on top of Sneijder. This also protect the CBs and allows the fullback to get forward on either side.
Both DS and Young have the pace to pin back their full backs, but they must work hard in tracking back too. Gerrard is dynamic enough to occupy the DMCs (i expect them to play 4-2-3-1 as well) It will be a tough game for welbeck, but i expect him to drop deep and also drift high into channels to pull men away. I dont think he will get many chances on goal, but he can create space for the 3 Behind to get goals, which is why ive gone for them, as they are all goal scorers. Having said that, Milner would also be a strong option to protect the flank against Robben
My point.....exactly..... thank you
Rofl.
Anyway, Nick.
This is how i would line up against Holland
4-2-3-1
Hart
Richards Smalling Lescott Cole
Carrick Parker
Sturridge Gerrard Young
Welbeck
The aim of Carrick and Parker is to maitain possession. by sitting slightly deeper they compress the area in which RVP likes to drop into, and also look to sit on top of Sneijder. This also protect the CBs and allows the fullback to get forward on either side.
Both DS and Young have the pace to pin back their full backs, but they must work hard in tracking back too. Gerrard is dynamic enough to occupy the DMCs (i expect them to play 4-2-3-1 as well) It will be a tough game for welbeck, but i expect him to drop deep and also drift high into channels to pull men away. I dont think he will get many chances on goal, but he can create space for the 3 Behind to get goals, which is why ive gone for them, as they are all goal scorers. Having said that, Milner would also be a strong option to protect the flank against Robben