GOODBYE 3430 Knap FM 17.3.1

[Deleted member 91052]

Thank you for your kind review and a few interesting points.

With regard to stoppers - The ME is designed around sliders and subsequently made up roles to try and fit. These rolers are a total pain in LL. I therefore ignore them. I also get baffled why players like Davies at Spurs is given a red rating at an advanced WB role.

WOF a similar tactic does add a little variety on the CAM strata and there is a GOODBYE version with AM AP and SS.

With Spurs T can retrain Kane to SS or use the 3421 versions of GOODBYE or WOF and there is also a version of GOODBYE with a TM, although I find TMs difficult to fit in a tactic (well done Martino).

 

[jesaustralia]

Thank you for your kind review and a few interesting points.

With regard to stoppers - The ME is designed around sliders and subsequently made up roles to try and fit. These rolers are a total pain in LL. I therefore ignore them. I also get baffled why players like Davies at Spurs is given a red rating at an advanced WB role.

WOF a similar tactic does add a little variety on the CAM strata and there is a GOODBYE version with AM AP and SS.

With Spurs T can retrain Kane to SS or use the 3421 versions of GOODBYE or WOF and there is also a version of GOODBYE with a TM, although I find TMs difficult to fit in a tactic (well done Martino).

I cannot ignore quality - this one is quality and deserves recognition

14 matches played conceeded 1 goal - Amazing even with lots of injuries suspensions and whatever the game throws at you .

So I keep analyzing this tactic though it work as smooth as silk - The centre Shadow has my attention when I compare the left & right Shadow - its like the latter perform slightly better - it can be a player thing or it can be that the Shadow in the central areas become less efficient - This is just what goes on in my game - I just want to point it out becourse perhaps you people see it as well - My suggestion if you see the same thing is to play around with either a different role in the CAM strata - I recommend AP-A or maybe even a CF-A. You could also attempt to fit in a CM-A and see what happens - I could see that working very well.

The centre Shadow still works really well - but don't seem as efficient as the shadows left or right - Remember these are only suggestions to potentially improve the tactic a fraction - its not my intention to sound dissatisfied or critical with anything from the original setup - Just wanna inspire/share these potential ideas - Check it out

Cheers

 

[marksmithlfc]

if im Liverpool which one of the tactics should i use ?? getting confusing which is the better tactic ?? Little help please

 

[Deleted member 91052]

GOODBYE 3430 is best underdog
GOODBYE DIRECT 3430 is best sub top - Try this with Lpool
WOF 3430 is best top dog

 

[Deleted member 91052]

I tried MR L Test with GOODBYE AM AP SS version

For some reason only the CA 145 Team uses the tactic, the CA120 changes to 442.

 

[toivonen]

I tried MR L Test with GOODBYE AM AP SS version

For some reason only the CA 145 Team uses the tactic, the CA120 changes to 442.

where is that version?

 

[Deleted member 91052]

On SI Forum, AS NOT SURE EVER POSTED HERE.

 

[jesaustralia]

Ajax Conclusion - Utilizing the Counter Version - Sub Top Team - 2020 - Att Movement

League Table

CH League Final

Well I have already recommended it to several people who exists in my private life - I recommended it to everyone in here - but I was aware that you guys are very well aware of its strenght - but in case their is someone new to the forum then I will say: Go to the front page and download a wonderful tactic that works with most setups - I get the same feedback over and over again about this tactic and its strenght - AMAZING!!!! - Simular to what my X-wife used to say

I formerly had a small issue with my centre shadow - and made some suggestions - but honestly I think my issue was the player and not the role - so Driussi - go home and teach yourself how to be a shadow

Anyway - I've seen a 9-0 win - I've seen Liverpool get humiliated 0-6 - I've seen Luciano Vietto score 49 goals with an average rate of 8.38 - I've seen Lemar score 28 goals and assist 40 (What a great freekick taker he is) - I've seen my goalie with the highest average rate I've seen in a long time 7.29 - Scintilating football - a joy to watch - an fm17 reborn for me - I talk to much only becourse I wanna express my gratitude and my happiness that this was created - I'm loving it - One thing though I don't believe in test templates or test results - I believe in management and what I can see visually - This one passed big time - and its not the last time I will play with it either.

Cheers to you all & have a nice day

 

[White Europe]

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hate this kind of matches we creating scoring chances and they beat us 5-2 anyway....

 

[HortonFM]

no words...

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[whispers]

Ajax Conclusion - Utilizing the Counter Version - Sub Top Team - 2020 - Att Movement

League Table

CH League Final

Well I have already recommended it to several people who exists in my private life - I recommended it to everyone in here - but I was aware that you guys are very well aware of its strenght - but in case their is someone new to the forum then I will say: Go to the front page and download a wonderful tactic that works with most setups - I get the same feedback over and over again about this tactic and its strenght - AMAZING!!!! - Simular to what my X-wife used to say

I formerly had a small issue with my centre shadow - and made some suggestions - but honestly I think my issue was the player and not the role - so Driussi - go home and teach yourself how to be a shadow

Anyway - I've seen a 9-0 win - I've seen Liverpool get humiliated 0-6 - I've seen Luciano Vietto score 49 goals with an average rate of 8.38 - I've seen Lemar score 28 goals and assist 40 (What a great freekick taker he is) - I've seen my goalie with the highest average rate I've seen in a long time 7.29 - Scintilating football - a joy to watch - an fm17 reborn for me - I talk to much only becourse I wanna express my gratitude and my happiness that this was created - I'm loving it - One thing though I don't believe in test templates or test results - I believe in management and what I can see visually - This one passed big time - and its not the last time I will play with it either.

Cheers to you all & have a nice day

Which one is the counter version since theres 2 in OP?

 

[Deleted member 91052]

1st tactic is counter - 2nd is standard STD

 

[whispers]

1st tactic is counter - 2nd is standard STD

Makes sense thanks. How would you rank your tactics? I mean is this better than the direct version or WOF version?

 

[Deleted member 91052]

GOODBYE 3430 - Top of MR L testing League Underdog performance
GOODBYE DIRECT 3430 - Sub Top
WOF 3430 - Top Dog

 

[whispers]

GOODBYE 3430 - Top of MR L testing League Underdog performance
GOODBYE DIRECT 3430 - Sub Top
WOF 3430 - Top Dog

And where do you put the 23230?

 

[Deleted member 91052]

Same as WOF but aimed at high scoring with a top team.

 

[jesaustralia]

After my last post in this thread I wasn't going to post in here again as I normally move on to something different - however I had to post again becourse something surreal happened

Earlier today I showed a screenshot of zero conceedes in 18 matches as a question in another thread - Someone said I was teasing & someone said the screenshot is fake - I documented the rest of the season in my friends Skype Chat - If anyone should be annoyed its him

I believe that some of the guys however thought I was about to present a new tactic - I'm gonna dissapoint people if that is the expectation - I am gonna present to you what happened however - I will also tell you the secret or some might call it magic

This is the Ajax story continued with Goodbye 3430 - Counter Version - 20/21 season

24 matches played

25 matches played

72 matches won in a row

26 matches played

27 matches played

28 matches played

29 matches played

30 matches played

31 matches played

32 matches played

33 matches played

34 matches played

CH League Final - Stadium Santiago Bernaneu - VS Real Madrid

**** so close to go ZERO conceedes in the league - we failed in the end - but somehow it cannot be counted as a fail - We won all trophy's possible - I'll take that and then somebody can try and beat the defensive record in the meantime

The Final League Table - Combined

So what did I do? - What really was the secret?

Training All Season Long - Rinse & Repeat

Normally - I would go team cohesion for the most of it - I only did that in preseason and then the above recipe - which is not really a trick - But keeping it at Tactics might seem a bit weird since I'm already fluid - This is by the way something I also saw back in fm13 other people did - So I went for it - I do feel that if you go either defensive positioning or attacking movement something renders in the match stats and in play - I feel you become worse defensively if you go attacking movement and I feel a bit on edge doing that - if I go defensive positioning which has been my preferred style for a while - I feel solid but my players seems to be inefficient - both styles have negative effects somehow - and I know it sounds really crazy me saying this becourse match preparation shouldn't have that big effect - maybe its just superstition - but it worked and I want you to try it and see what happens in your game - atleast for a season

This could ofcourse be my 1st 11 that did all this and rendered the match preparation useless anyway

1st 11

Quaia is a tall regent simular to someone Tall and strong

I like to have quicker BPD left and right - and then a Tall man in the middle with lots of anticipation decision and concentration - bonus if he's quick too.

The others you should know - the star wingback Semedo got sold - so I used Troupee a dutch wingback in game instead - not a big name - but he's ok. I will say though - I have a feeling that you can successfully retrain wingers like Mbappe or someone who is good at finishing and get more goals out of your WB's - you should experiment with that.

Shadows are quality regents no point in showing them - they are decent - To reflect Vietto do better though.

I think the BWM are very important here - Walace is a quality one of those - linking defence and the transition phase very well - I know for a fact though you can be very successful with a creative dlp type in this position and if they have a great longshot I will not say no to that

The Dutch League - The Portuguese League and all of the Small Leagues - are ofcourse not the most intimidating with a solid tactic & quality players

Guys I apoligize for the teasing - I just wanted to show you the incredible pictures with the 2 goals conceeded in the league - And just to set things straight - this Ajax team conceeded all together in all competitions 7 goals - further they are also still on a winning streak obviously - I don't know how many it is now - didn't count it and I didn't see any updates on it - but we haven't lost so - I'm totally bragging haha! - ####Now that's how to troll####

If you Like This Post (Hypnotizing) - Like It - if you don't - True Colors Revealed

Try this with other tactics as well and see what happens

Cheers Guys - Peace

 

[ien77]

After my last post in this thread I wasn't going to post in here again as I normally move on to something different - however I had to post again becourse something surreal happened

Earlier today I showed a screenshot of zero conceedes in 18 matches as a question in another thread - Someone said I was teasing & someone said the screenshot is fake - I documented the rest of the season in my friends Skype Chat - If anyone should be annoyed its him

I believe that some of the guys however thought I was about to present a new tactic - I'm gonna dissapoint people if that is the expectation - I am gonna present to you what happened however - I will also tell you the secret or some might call it magic

This is the Ajax story continued with Goodbye 3430 - Counter Version - 20/21 season

24 matches played

25 matches played

72 matches won in a row

26 matches played

27 matches played

28 matches played

29 matches played

30 matches played

31 matches played

32 matches played

33 matches played

34 matches played

CH League Final - Stadium Santiago Bernaneu - VS Real Madrid

**** so close to go ZERO conceedes in the league - we failed in the end - but somehow it cannot be counted as a fail - We won all trophy's possible - I'll take that and then somebody can try and beat the defensive record in the meantime

The Final League Table - Combined

So what did I do? - What really was the secret?

Training All Season Long - Rinse & Repeat

Normally - I would go team cohesion for the most of it - I only did that in preseason and then the above recipe - which is not really a trick - But keeping it at Tactics might seem a bit weird since I'm already fluid - This is by the way something I also saw back in fm13 other people did - So I went for it - I do feel that if you go either defensive positioning or attacking movement something renders in the match stats and in play - I feel you become worse defensively if you go attacking movement and I feel a bit on edge doing that - if I go defensive positioning which has been my preferred style for a while - I feel solid but my players seems to be inefficient - both styles have negative effects somehow - and I know it sounds really crazy me saying this becourse match preparation shouldn't have that big effect - maybe its just superstition - but it worked and I want you to try it and see what happens in your game - atleast for a season

This could ofcourse be my 1st 11 that did all this and rendered the match preparation useless anyway

1st 11

Quaia is a tall regent simular to someone Tall and strong

I like to have quicker BPD left and right - and then a Tall man in the middle with lots of anticipation decision and concentration - bonus if he's quick too.

The others you should know - the star wingback Semedo got sold - so I used Troupee a dutch wingback in game instead - not a big name - but he's ok. I will say though - I have a feeling that you can successfully retrain wingers like Mbappe or someone who is good at finishing and get more goals out of your WB's - you should experiment with that.

Shadows are quality regents no point in showing them - they are decent - To reflect Vietto do better though.

I think the BWM are very important here - Walace is a quality one of those - linking defence and the transition phase very well - I know for a fact though you can be very successful with a creative dlp type in this position and if they have a great longshot I will not say no to that

The Dutch League - The Portuguese League and all of the Small Leagues - are ofcourse not the most intimidating with a solid tactic & quality players

Guys I apoligize for the teasing - I just wanted to show you the incredible pictures with the 2 goals conceeded in the league - And just to set things straight - this Ajax team conceeded all together in all competitions 7 goals - further they are also still on a winning streak obviously - I don't know how many it is now - didn't count it and I didn't see any updates on it - but we haven't lost so - I'm totally bragging haha! - ####Now that's how to troll####

If you Like This Post (Hypnotizing) - Like It - if you don't - True Colors Revealed

Try this with other tactics as well and see what happens

Cheers Guys - Peace

play you in match 3d / 2d / instant result ??
can send you your backup to continue this game please

 

[octapous]

@Jesaustralia

- how about pre-season ? what training do you use ?
- what about individual training ?

 

[wori94]

@Jesaustralia

Do you use any oi?