MONSTROUS PLUG & PLAY
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I've used V1 for 1 full season and V2 for 1 full season, and V1 definately concedes less, I think the opposition just create a few more CCC against you with version 2.
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If you are ready to do the manual marking and track all the stuff during the match then go for EXECUTIONER.TFF keep up the good work pal. which tactic would you recommend. this or EXECUTIONER. im currently using V6 but which would you recommend?
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Guys,do you think TFF is wasting his time only to post a weaker tactic ?! Or to post a simple tactic just to be there ?! Of course its better,he already tested,multiple times,and a lot of matches...
v2>v1 !
v2>v1 !
how about i decide what tactic performs better for me? lot of things have impact on how a tactic performs and for me v1 permorms alot better so far. im sure however v2 is also very very good, just a bit less for me.
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Mate, I wouldn't be so sure in my good intentions when I update tactics... because there's always probability that dark force has taken possession of me (6) and made me to post weaker tactic instead of good tactic... or I simple made a mistake during the testing
(A)Or maybe to get more attention on his threads when the posts dry up?
Call me cynical, I know.
yeah those arguments really prove v2 superiority.
In the future, would you please consider a Waste Time tactic that uses positions similar to MONSTROUS P&P? e.g. DL/DR instead of WBL/WBR?
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tff has a TESTING TEMPLATE
you are testing the tactic in your own save over 1 season
this game is very RANDOM
over 1 season, the same tactic, you can have TWENTY POINTS DIFFERENCE
in his template, over his 150+/etc games in a TESTING ENVIRONMENT, there is LESS chance for DISTORTION in RESULTS
if you do not understand this, then you have a problem that can't be helped, i could have 1 season with v1 better than 1 seasons with v6 of exeuctioner, because the game is RANDOM
you are comparing ONE season to ONE season, he is comparing HUNDREDS/THOUSANDS of games
Love this tactic. Newcastle 1st season. Thank you TFF!
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I think you need read particularly before answer.
Can people please post what patch they are using with their (amazing) results. SI change the game so much between patches that 130 goal a season tactics are easily reduced to -130 GD in the space of an update.
such a wall of text. so if i understand you correctly there's still a (lesser) chance for inacurate results in TTF's test? or is 1 season from you or me saying nothing and 150 games from TTF is the bible? must be nice if you're so eager to follow everyone blindly.
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if you think that's a wall of text then i doubt i should even bother responding to you, as you're too narrow/simple minded to understand what i'm saying or you're too unbelievably arrogant to accept that someone else has a good point
yes, there is a chance in TFF's testing, that his v1 test underachieved massively, and his v2 test overachieved massively, to say there's 0% chance of that would be nonsense
but to say it's more likely that happened, as opposed to you overachieving with v1 and underachieving with v2, would be simply stupid
there are a LOT, and i mean a LOT more variable in your 2 seasons than there are in his fixed, static, testing environment
transfers, team talks, management, form, injuries, etc, all these things of probability/user input, that occur during our seasons, will have a MASSIVE impact on the tactic
so with all those variables, it is very likely for some users, after testing both tactics for 1 season, to say v1 is better than v2, due to the experiences they had in their seasons, not taking in to account all the variables/user input
it is a LOT less likely for TFF to make the judgement of error in his tactic testing environment though
if v1's working for you, great, keep using it, i've had my share of bad seasons/saves that i've binned cause i've made some bad choices, but to assume v2 is inferior to v1 because of one season, then you're ignoring all the hard work and effort that TFF has put in to making and testing his tactics, along with his extensively knowledge of the game/ME (and it's fair enough to say that his is superior to ours), and i think that's somewhat foolish
anyways hope you understand my point, use whichever version you believe works better, i have a massive amount of respect for what TFF does, the effort he puts in, the amount of time he spends simplifying things, helping users, responding to every post having to reanswer the same questions over and over, and i hate to see people questioning/doubting his work when he's probably the best tactician for this patch on the forums in my opinion
haha making it personal is a sign of weakness, its what people do when they cant win a argument.
also making stuff up is a little uncalled for. i have never doubted ttf's work and told atleast 5 times in his threads that his tactics are overperforming so hard (even compared it to diablo once). also i have NEVER said v1 is better. I simply said that v2 might not be better, wich TTF later even said its true because of the variables. now you can throw as many walls of text in here as you like but those wont change the facts i just stated here. maybe for your next response you should ask TTF his opinion so you can just copy paste it
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also making stuff up is a little uncalled for. i have never doubted ttf's work and told atleast 5 times in his threads that his tactics are overperforming so hard (even compared it to diablo once). also i have NEVER said v1 is better. I simply said that v2 might not be better, wich TTF later even said its true because of the variables. now you can throw as many walls of text in here as you like but those wont change the facts i just stated here. maybe for your next response you should ask TTF his opinion so you can just copy paste it
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