Mr Langvatn's Tactic Thread (Updated for 13.3.3)

rich_genie said:
Just done a couple of tests with WBA same fixtures over first 20 games for the 4-5-1 and 4-4-2 and the 4-5-1 got 37 points and the 4-4-2 got 43 points.

Now I know it's not many games and the RNG and all that but, I watched all the games on extended highlights and the 4-4-2 played much better and my team won games much easier than with the 4-5-1, also in the 4-4-2 test I had more injuries and two of the 3 games I lost were due to being down to 10 and 9 men, was 1-0 up against man city and lost 2-1 after going down to 9 men. The 4-4-2 also scored 18 more goals over 20 games but conceded the same amount. So certainly in my experience the 4-4-2 is better, at least for mid table prem sides.

Gonna do the same test with the rock now and see how it goes. Not expecting it to do as well as the 4-4-2 but would expect around the same points as the 4-5-1.
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In my Cardiff game, I experience the opposite. But I have a weaker team than WBA though, so maybe that's why the 4-5-1 works better. I always use those two in combination though. Using the 4-4-2 for the easier matches, and the 4-5-1 for the hard ones.
 
Just scanned the thread for some info on pitch size....you said small for small teams, big for big teams......so for a newly promoted side to league one (that's me and torquay) and bearing in mind I will use 442 for easier matches and 451 for harder ones.....I have the following pitch size options:

Minimum - 101m x 64m
Standard - 101m x 65m
Max - 102m x 68m

What do you recommend? When you say big team do mean big for that division or only a top 4 prem team?

I'm only asking so people who are working their way up the leagues have a rough idea of what template to follow.

For instance, if your newly promoted and expect to be underdogs all the time then minimum pitch size.......and if you've avoided relegation and done well that season then next season (if you didn't already get promoted) you put pitch size to maximum allowing for the better players you've brought in etc etc??
 
mcbgun said:
Just scanned the thread for some info on pitch size....you said small for small teams, big for big teams......so for a newly promoted side to league one (that's me and torquay) and bearing in mind I will use 442 for easier matches and 451 for harder ones.....I have the following pitch size options:

Minimum - 101m x 64m
Standard - 101m x 65m
Max - 102m x 68m

What do you recommend? When you say big team do mean big for that division or only a top 4 prem team?

I'm only asking so people who are working their way up the leagues have a rough idea of what template to follow.

For instance, if your newly promoted and expect to be underdogs all the time then minimum pitch size.......and if you've avoided relegation and done well that season then next season (if you didn't already get promoted) you put pitch size to maximum allowing for the better players you've brought in etc etc??
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Ye, big compared to your division :) So, minimum if you have a weak team compared to the rest of the league, and maximum if you have a top side compared to the league. medium I guess if you are a mid-table team.
 
Mr Langvatn said:
In my Cardiff game, I experience the opposite. But I have a weaker team than WBA though, so maybe that's why the 4-5-1 works better. I always use those two in combination though. Using the 4-4-2 for the easier matches, and the 4-5-1 for the hard ones.
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Possibly, it didn't lose any more games but the 4-5-1 got me way more draws than the 4-4-2, the 4-4-2 just gave me that cutting edge with Lukaku and Long up front, they played some beautiful one-twos.
 
rich_genie said:
Possibly, it didn't lose any more games but the 4-5-1 got me way more draws than the 4-4-2, the 4-4-2 just gave me that cutting edge with Lukaku and Long up front, they played some beautiful one-twos.
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Ah ye, I only have one decent striker though :P So maybe that's why:) How is it going with the rock?
 
How do you combat second half syndrome, where your players don't score or even worse concede like crazy? Not sure what you're doing, if anything, to combat this but I'd love to know. (Using Assman as teamtalker)
 
Revolve said:
How do you combat second half syndrome, where your players don't score or even worse concede like crazy? Not sure what you're doing, if anything, to combat this but I'd love to know. (Using Assman as teamtalker)
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I usually don't have a problem with this. But I guess you could add some friendly matches in the winter break :)
 
Mr Langvatn said:
Ah ye, I only have one decent striker though :P So maybe that's why:) How is it going with the rock?
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Steady so far, only 7 games in but won 3 drew 3 lost 1 (to man city again, but this time got hammered), two easy home games against stoke and west ham next though. Lost Lukaku for 3 months but Long is doing just as well as the lone striker.
 
rich_genie said:
Steady so far, only 7 games in but won 3 drew 3 lost 1 (to man city again, but this time got hammered), two easy home games against stoke and west ham next though. Lost Lukaku for 3 months but Long is doing just as well as the lone striker.
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I'm sitting 4th place with Cardiff after 29 games first season :) LFCmarshall's update, so it's in the prem. I don't think this is possible at all with the Rock. I also beat Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal, and drew against Man Utd and Chelsea:P
 
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Mr Langvatn said:
I'm sitting 4th place with Cardiff after 28 games first season :) LFCmarshall's update, so it's in the prem. I don't think this is possible at all with the Rock. I also beat Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal, and drew against Man Utd and Chelsea:P
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What's your starting 11
 
Mr Langvatn said:
I rotate a lot, just leaving it to the assistant to pick the team :P
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Have you made any signings? if it's using cardiffs current real life squad then I don't think the rock could have done any better or probably as good.

The Rock is going to do worse in my WBA 20 game test I think.
 
Do you mind if I ask, do you have any filters for players for these tactics or just that thread you linked?
 
rich_genie said:
Have you made any signings? if it's using cardiffs current real life squad then I don't think the rock could have done any better or probably as good.

The Rock is going to do worse in my WBA 20 game test I think.
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Yeah, among the starting 11 is Strandberg, Dockal, Will Hughes and Jem Karacan.
 
Tested the 442 and 451 tripletweaked with mid-table team. Got a couple of draws with 451 while collecting a few win with the 442. I know this is mid table team but how do you think this 2 tactic will fair if it was a top team like Barcelona or Man U?
 
JxChicharito said:
Tested the 442 and 451 tripletweaked with mid-table team. Got a couple of draws with 451 while collecting a few win with the 442. I know this is mid table team but how do you think this 2 tactic will fair if it was a top team like Barcelona or Man U?
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Probably undefeated, or close to it at least.
 
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