Peterborough after 2 seasons qualified to Champion league-4-2-2-2-false defence.

[kazm]

Agreed, there is no need for that. This tactic is not perfect, he should be happy with discussion.

Other than that he is obviously doing something different than the rest of us (he is getting results none of us get) and it isnt explained in this thread.

 

[vujevic]

Do you know how to play against opponents who use target man and play with deep defensive line?
Do you know how to play against opponent who has inside forwards?Do you know when to use overload?
Do you know what type of assistant manager to have?
Do you know how to keep team and player morals?

Today I talked with some people and looks like most of them don’t now answers for these questions, so they cannot play this tactic with high effect. Other thing I noticed from them they still using players with wrong attributes for this tactic. The mistakes what I seen are really terrible, they using goalies who have low aerial ability ,they using anchor man with bad heading and low height, they playing with slow strikers and much more. Also people still buying players with low determination, low work rate and tackling.
Most of them just thinking that playing Fm is just to download tactic and turn on games.

In my opinion every average player need to now these things!

The secret of my results

preparation for match-that means corect usage of strict marking
good observation of match-that means corect using of team instruction ,and corect using of overload strategy

Team morale must be all the time high,also you need to have asistant menager with high motivation example is my Troyes asistent menager with motivation 19.

 

[Darandio]

Most of them just thinking that playing Fm is just to download tactic and turn on games.

And to a certain extent, previous versions of FM allowed you to do just that, the tactics themselves would generally exploit the ME. It's just natural for people, especially those with less knowledge to assume this version is no different. We know it isn't though.

I have a fairly good idea what I am doing. I personally never once criticised your tactic, merely pointing out that over a period of time, it never worked for me as I wanted it do, that is why I made an almost complete revision of it. I don't even think others actually criticised your tactic, they were pointing out that it didn't work for them, yet you constantly go on the offensive against them like you did with me. You said......

Also these people who asking Darandio for modified version from guy who fail with Liverpol you must have some serius problems.

Where have I failed? Your tactic wasn't working for me so I made the modifications. We went on a fantastic run, did what we could to recover our position in the league and won the FA Cup. In the next season I am challenging for the title, all because of the revisions I have made.

To prove the tactic even further, I created a new story thread, starting as unemployed and then accepting an offer from FC Energie Cottbus who were bottom of the German Second Division without a victory. Using the tactic, I have taken the club, devoid of morale from the bottom of the league to within spitting distance of the promotion places with eight games remaining. So it even works at a lower league level, again, where have I failed?

 

[vujevic]

And to a certain extent, previous versions of FM allowed you to do just that, the tactics themselves would generally exploit the ME. It's just natural for people, especially those with less knowledge to assume this version is no different. We know it isn't though.

I have a fairly good idea what I am doing. I personally never once criticised your tactic, merely pointing out that over a period of time, it never worked for me as I wanted it do, that is why I made an almost complete revision of it. I don't even think others actually criticised your tactic, they were pointing out that it didn't work for them, yet you constantly go on the offensive against them like you did with me. You said......



Where have I failed? Your tactic wasn't working for me so I made the modifications. We went on a fantastic run, did what we could to recover our position in the league and won the FA Cup. In the next season I am challenging for the title, all because of the revisions I have made.

To prove the tactic even further, I created a new story thread, starting as unemployed and then accepting an offer from FC Energie Cottbus who were bottom of the German Second Division without a victory. Using the tactic, I have taken the club, devoid of morale from the bottom of the league to within spitting distance of the promotion places with eight games remaining. So it even works at a lower league level, again, where have I failed?

For me is the fail when you canot be in top 3 teams with Liverpool only that mate.

As you can see i have exelent run with Troyes maybe i will win French leagu with worst team so maybe i have alot of luck who knows my goalie already saved more then 5 penalties in 20 games.

 

[kevpolley]

Care to upload a SS of your game save stats screen from your Troyes save please mate?

 

[Ender27]

does this tactic works with Atletico Madrid?

 

[vujevic]

Care to upload a SS of your game save stats screen from your Troyes save please mate?

I playing Fm on my job on some old slow pc also i dont have internet there.

I will try today to finish French chalenge with Troyes.

French leauge is so bad,all the teams using deep defense line with one target man up front,so they are very easy to beat them with corect tactical aproeach.

You put your Anchorman to strict marking of their target man,if they using inside forwards use your dmc to strict mark their left inside forward.

If they play very defensivly against you use pusher high up and overload and press them until you score.then returnm back again to defense.

use strict marking only on 1 player if you using on more players your formation will lose shape.

If you playing against strong team use your defender stoper to mark their target man or even dont use any marking against him because you need your anchorman in midfield more.

If your oponet playing clasical 4-4-2 dont mark any player just give team instruction to play wider.

You need to notice when oponent change their formation so that you can react.

Observing the match is key for glory in Fm.

I hope this will help you alot!

 

[vujevic]

TROYES CHALENGE

MY TACTICAL MISTAKES

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My opponent has Italian coach Ancceloti who prefers to play his old formation 4-3-2-1 what he used in Milan.
How I play against teams who use this formation
1-my stopper will have job of strict marking of their striker Ibrahimovic
2-The strength of opponent formation is in their midfield, so I will instruct my team to play narrower(+ your standars instructions)

With this instructions I started match and it have been working very good so I scored two goals, after that Ibrahimovic who have been strictly marked by my stopper became very nervous so result was red card for him. Then I done my mistake I was happy with lead so I didn’t changed my team instruction for overload and push higher up and result was 2-2, after that I noticed my mistake so I finally changed my strategy and immediately my team scored for 3-2, no again me doing same mistake I switched my tactic back to defense and result was 3-3, last 10 min I played with overload even created few chances but I didn’t managed to score.

After this match my team dropped to 2 place 1 point behind Toulouse, six matches to go,also I play in leaugue cup final.

Any comments regarding my mistakes and my tactical approach for this match?

 

[kazm]

Thanks for the tips might try a new game with the tactic, dinamo Zagreb seem to have a good team for it.

 

[JustAnotherFootballFan]

People must really understand that for a tactic to be effective there are many factors,just downloading it and play wont bring succes.
You need to be aware of many things:
1.What team did you pick?Does your team players match the important stats required?
2.Is the next opponent above me as value?Do i start defensive or maybe i counter?
3.What's their main threat?Can my defenders cope with his speed and dribbling..or with his height,heading?
4.What's my team morale..maybe they just need that extra faith or should i be arrogant and expect a win?
5.What are my chances in that match? For example, i play away to Chelsea,my expectations in that game were low..i knew they will thrash me,they did 5-0 should i had drawn i would've been happy but still a defeat against Chelsea isnt that bad,so i let players know thing are ok,i keep their spirit high.
Play a friendly with a team on same level or better than you..watch the game closely..where does my team fail..did they atack on left flank more,was that Fb outrun..dont go paying 10 mil for a striker that doesnt help your team and you dont need it..start reconstruction from Gk Defence and so on...but make sure each department has a certain level and watch for those stats,make sure players fit,check their determination ,their decision workrate,you dont need 3 C.Ronaldo maybe you need a Milner,a Valencia or a player who does more for team than for himself...


I must say there are many aspects and perhaps you pass through game like knife through butter,don't expect glory when you miss out some important issues,put yourself in Mourinho's shoes or Ferguson's and say:...hmm what will ferguson do in "this" situation,sometimes go on instinct.

Overall as a final idea of my reply...don't forget enjoy the game,going like crazy and smashing keyboards and swearing wont get you anywhere,more will stop from assessing that situation with your mind clear.

Good luck all out there and remember a healthy mind leads to a healthy team and clear-cutting decisions.

 

[BoloBolo]

vujevic pls right more abaut this tactic. I want to know all ambaut it. What changes to make, what gk to buy,During seaseon on trianig i must focusses on Atacking movement ore defensive? Right more pls.
P.s. This tactic work very well four me curently after 25 matches i;m on 4 places with Q.P.R

 

[BoloBolo]

vujevic pls right more abaut this tactic. I want to know all ambaut it. What changes to make, what gk to buy,During seaseon on trianig i must focusses on Atacking movement ore defensive? Right more pls.
P.s. This tactic work very well four me curently after 25 matches i;m on 4 places with Q.P.R

 

[vujevic]

TROYES CHALENGE

MY TACTICAL MISTAKES

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My opponent has Italian coach Ancceloti who prefers to play his old formation 4-3-2-1 what he used in Milan.
How I play against teams who use this formation
1-my stopper will have job of strict marking of their striker Ibrahimovic
2-The strength of opponent formation is in their midfield, so I will instruct my team to play narrower(+ your standars instructions)

With this instructions I started match and it have been working very good so I scored two goals, after that Ibrahimovic who have been strictly marked by my stopper became very nervous so result was red card for him. Then I done my mistake I was happy with lead so I didn’t changed my team instruction for overload and push higher up and result was 2-2, after that I noticed my mistake so I finally changed my strategy and immediately my team scored for 3-2, no again me doing same mistake I switched my tactic back to defense and result was 3-3, last 10 min I played with overload even created few chances but I didn’t managed to score.

After this match my team dropped to 2 place 1 point behind Toulouse, six matches to go,also I play in leaugue cup final.

Any comments regarding my mistakes and my tactical approach for this match?

As you can see this was my aproach against 4-3-2-1 formation,for every posible formation i have corect tactical aproach.

I would like to see more coments regarding this match and my mistakes!

 

[vujevic]

vujevic pls right more abaut this tactic. I want to know all ambaut it. What changes to make, what gk to buy,During seaseon on trianig i must focusses on Atacking movement ore defensive? Right more pls.
P.s. This tactic work very well four me curently after 25 matches i;m on 4 places with Q.P.R

Hey mate QPR have exelent team for this tactic and i am sure that you will be in top 8 teams in Premiership.

All my tranings and match preparations are done by my asistant manager.

Try to have asistant menager with high motivation minimum 18.





Regarding your goalkeeper he needs to have high aerial ability, communication of area handling, determination (throwing, reflexes).Goalkeeper is second most important player in this tactic his aerial ability will save you allot against opponent crossings.

 

[vujevic]

TROYES FRENCH CHALENGE

WON LEAUGE AND CUP IN FIRST SEASON

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As you can see I managed to win league in first season even with media prediction of last spot also I won league cup. I think this is my biggest success in my long carrier when we take facts that my first team has only 15 players; also I managed to buy only 2 players for total price of 3m, one loaned player only.​

Basically this success showed that manager ability with good tactic can compensate lack of quality of his player’s .Personally French league it is very easy also my main rival PSG and Lille played badly in this season.
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[BoloBolo]

Best tactic from the game, i try all the tactic this is the best.
P.S. If GK is the second witch player is the most important ?

 

[kevpolley]

Fair play mate. Well done.

 

[vujevic]

Best tactic from the game, i try all the tactic this is the best.
P.S. If GK is the second witch player is the most important ?

Anchorman he gives plenty bonuses in in defense

with him and two of your defenders you have 3 players with instruction to mark tall players and most people have only 2.

in corners he is on oponent gk presuring himso your ccrosing in 6 yard box resulting with plenty goals.



Anchorman best player role ever canot imagine any formation without him.

 

[kazm]

Gonna start a new game with QPR.

I am assuming this would be the best starting 11:

GK: Cesar
DL: Fabio
DR: Bosingwa
DCst: Nelsen
DCc: Onuoha

DMCL: Diakite
DMCR: Faurlin

AMCL: Granero
AMCR: Park

Strikers: Hoillet, Cisse

I have a question by the way: the tactic has width adjusted with the slider, i thought that meant that shouts couldnt change it anymore, pretty sure thats said in MrHoughs shout thread. Wouldnt play narrower/wider shouts be useless then?

edit: When you say you let your anchorman tight mark their TM, you mean you manually set him to manmarking with tight marking right?

I just played a game vs Coventry (friendly) they played a flat 4-5-1, i set the anchorman to manmark their striker, let ***. manager do Opposition Instructions, used shouts: pass into space, work into box, play wider (you said vs English 442 play wider, i thought that would be same vs English flat 451.)

How the match went: first half we scored 2 times, 2-0 at break. After break they switch to 4-4-2, i wasnt paying attention so they score 2-1, i stop anchorman from marking the striker. Then they break through on the right, cross and score. I switch to overload and add push up shout and we score 3-2 and 4-2.

Should i have changed to overload right after they switch to 4-4-2?

 

[vujevic]

Gonna start a new game with QPR.

I am assuming this would be the best starting 11:

GK: Cesar
DL: Fabio
DR: Bosingwa
DCst: Nelsen
DCc: Onuoha

DMCL: Diakite
DMCR: Faurlin

AMCL: Granero
AMCR: Park

Strikers: Hoillet, Cisse

I have a question by the way: the tactic has width adjusted with the slider, i thought that meant that shouts couldnt change it anymore, pretty sure thats said in MrHoughs shout thread. Wouldnt play narrower/wider shouts be useless then?

I am still not sure regarding this i noticed that my team doing much better against 4-4-2 when i using that shout.

edit: When you say you let your anchorman tight mark their TM, you mean you manually set him to manmarking with tight marking right?

Yes before match start you go to your player instruction and chose strict marking on certain player.

I just played a game vs Coventry (friendly) they played a flat 4-5-1, i set the anchorman to manmark their striker, let ***. manager do Opposition Instructions, used shouts: pass into space, work into box, play wider (you said vs English 442 play wider, i thought that would be same vs English flat 451.)

I using play wider only against 4-4-2

How the match went: first half we scored 2 times, 2-0 at break. After break they switch to 4-4-2, i wasn't paying attention so they score 2-1, i stop anchorman from marking the striker. Then they break through on the right, cross and score. I switch to overload and add push up shout and we score 3-2 and 4-2.

Should i have changed to overload right after they switch to 4-4-2?

I am still not sure regarding this i noticed that my team doing much better against 4-4-2 when i using that shout.

I using play wider only against 4-4-2

no,but you done good thing with switching to overload in last 15 min.

I am just taking Liverpool as my next challenge

For QPR i sugest you to buy Ademilson,Mattheus and one good central defender and one anchor/dmc also.