Ramsey hit by horrific leg injury
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Wenger's comments are disgraceful, Campbell was just mad, I mean he had a go at Shawcross, when it wasn't on purpose, the Judas. If Wenger thinks he knows Shawcross more than anybody else than he is wrong, if you look at Shawcross' record he doesn't have a bad record. I really don't get it when he says it's not a coincidence, what is it then? Just because they have bad injuries due to the fact that his players are injury prone, I mean Man Utd had their whole defence out injured and no-one made a big fuss about it. It happens all the time in the Lower League and just because it's Arsenal people make a big fuss. As I said Wenger and Campbell were disgraceful, I know you should support your mates but not have a go at people and set a bad example.
I do wish Ramsey a good recovery though as he doesn't deserve to go through this but I just wish Wenger would stop moaning.
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I agree I mean Arsenal aren't exactly the team with the best disciplinary record, Wenger just moans about everything, attacking Martin O'Neil for 'negative play' and attacking Chelsea because they won but 'didn't deserve to win' or something along those lines. He is a hypocrite and has sour grapes every time they lose.themadsheep2001 said:
I do wish Ramsey a good recovery though as he doesn't deserve to go through this but I just wish Wenger would stop moaning.
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You tell me how any physio would have felt sympathy for the culprit while the victim is lying on the floor with only one working leg.
a bad challange defo red card, when u go to stoke your going to get kicked dosen`t matter if you arsenal or manu or anyone same as bolton blackburn birmingham all dirty teams that are very weak on skill and more about taking chunks out of the other teams untill they give up because they don`t want to be on the end of a bad one as ramsey was yestaday and eduardo before him ect its not right at all 3 in 5years is wrong we are a side with pace and skill and the lesser teams have no other way than to get stuck in hard it isnt right. rant over get well soon ramsey!
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Having watched it again, I take back my comments from yesterday and admit that it shouldn't have been a sending off. Tony Pulis has done a great job in getting his team to play good football and not to be scared in any challenge, but this time it's a matter of the quickest player in the challenge coming off the worse.
omg have you watched it, there have been far worse tackles than that. you know what ive said it so many times i just cant be bothered anymore, read my earlier post
It was a bad challenge, but if Ramsey had not been injured Shawcross wouldn't have been sent off. It was just bad luck that he happened to come off so badly out of it, and I wish him all the best in his recovery. But from what I've seen, the tackle did not look intentional or malicious, but an attempt to get the ball. I feel it deserved a yellow card as the punishment is not related to the injury, but to the foul.
To be honest though how hard does Shawcross have to swing his leg to cause a break? He should have at least calmed down slightly on the power behind his boot, maybe he misjudged his own strength?
For the person who was saying: "OMG there iz much worser fouls!": These fouls also get punished with red cards, so your point is retarded. Just because there is worse doesn't mean that this challenge wasn't bad.
For the person who was saying: "OMG there iz much worser fouls!": These fouls also get punished with red cards, so your point is retarded. Just because there is worse doesn't mean that this challenge wasn't bad.
No mate I would be more concerned with my team-mate laying stricken on the pitch but thats me.
Alright, after reading the comments of this thread, I've watched the video a few more times.
1. Shawcross hit Ramsey with the laces, meaning that he didn't intentionally raise his studs to inflict damage.
2. Ramsey's ankle was bent inward before contact was made, which did not help the situation at all when Shawcross' boot made contact with him.
3. Shawcross followed through really hard, which I feel is more about the Stoke team being physical players, especially against a technical side like Arsenal.
4. If it wasn't for the injury, I'd probably have thought the challenge was yellow-card worthy. However, with the leg-break, the referee is bound to show the red card in an attempt to appease the Arsenal contingent somewhat.
5. I honestly believe Shawcross didn't mean to injure Ramsey. I think the young Welshman was very unlucky and I wish him a speedy recovery.
6. Arsene Wenger is on another witch-hunt. Granted, it was deserved when Eduardo was injured, but this time; leave the poor guy alone, he already feels terrible about it.
1. Shawcross hit Ramsey with the laces, meaning that he didn't intentionally raise his studs to inflict damage.
2. Ramsey's ankle was bent inward before contact was made, which did not help the situation at all when Shawcross' boot made contact with him.
3. Shawcross followed through really hard, which I feel is more about the Stoke team being physical players, especially against a technical side like Arsenal.
4. If it wasn't for the injury, I'd probably have thought the challenge was yellow-card worthy. However, with the leg-break, the referee is bound to show the red card in an attempt to appease the Arsenal contingent somewhat.
5. I honestly believe Shawcross didn't mean to injure Ramsey. I think the young Welshman was very unlucky and I wish him a speedy recovery.
6. Arsene Wenger is on another witch-hunt. Granted, it was deserved when Eduardo was injured, but this time; leave the poor guy alone, he already feels terrible about it.
You are having a laugh right?! If you actually watched it you would have seen that there was no malice and Shawcross was genuinely gutted by it.
And also the bit I have highlighted - Personally I think that it stupidly disrespectful, Tony Pulis has worked wonders for Stoke just like Mcleish at Birmingham - Just because they aren't the prettiest teams to watch doesnt mean they dont have the odd skillful player. (McFadden, Tuncay, Lawrence, Larsson etc) And they are making a success out of their teams and playing to their strengths. Get your red tinted glasses off will you.
I think what he means is that the tactics of those teams is to go out and just kick Arsenal about, which is just despicable really. There is no denying that the "Sam Allardyce" school of football has taken a bit of a hold in these mid-lower level clubs. I fully understand teams playing to their strengths ie. Bolton lofting ball after ball up for Davies and that's pretty much their gameplan, but when the strategy for the game becomes inherently malicious, it's no surprise we get these terrible injuries.
Also, there is a difference between being commited and what those teams do when we face them.
Arsenal release statement.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/official-statement-aaron-ramsey-s-injury
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/official-statement-aaron-ramsey-s-injury
want really annoys me is Wengers response in all of this. i can understands campballs any of the players they where next to ramsey, they responded to it. But for him to complain about physically ect ect is fine
but when Vieria, Gilberto and that team. they where physical lads. they could hand dirty tackles out like there was no tommorrow. Vieria used to Regulary Exchange fouls with Keane.
Wengers responses where always " these things happen in football, or it is just passion." so why is it not like tht for shawcross from him
******** THTS WHY
but when Vieria, Gilberto and that team. they where physical lads. they could hand dirty tackles out like there was no tommorrow. Vieria used to Regulary Exchange fouls with Keane.
Wengers responses where always " these things happen in football, or it is just passion." so why is it not like tht for shawcross from him
******** THTS WHY
no they dont, see cuellar on erva today, just a yellow, or defoes tackle, or mascherano's tackle, or fellainis tackle, all worse, none resulting in real injury, none punished with red cards
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/send-your-messages-for-aaron-ramsey
I've already sent one in. Is a great gesture, for not only Arsenal fans to do, but fans from other clubs.
This was the one I wrote to Aaron.
Aaron, you were having such a great year, very unlucky for it to end this way. You are such a fine player, I speak for all Gooners when I say you will go onto be one of the greatest players to put on the red jersey.
You have the mental strength, youth, and most importantly vast amount of ability to come back from this the better and stronger player.
We wish you all a speedy recover and cannot wait until the finest welshman to ever play for Arsenal return, Good Luck Aaron
I've already sent one in. Is a great gesture, for not only Arsenal fans to do, but fans from other clubs.
This was the one I wrote to Aaron.
Aaron, you were having such a great year, very unlucky for it to end this way. You are such a fine player, I speak for all Gooners when I say you will go onto be one of the greatest players to put on the red jersey.
You have the mental strength, youth, and most importantly vast amount of ability to come back from this the better and stronger player.
We wish you all a speedy recover and cannot wait until the finest welshman to ever play for Arsenal return, Good Luck Aaron
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