SaintMotbot's Platinum League Chairman Game.

[Znik]

Well it all depends on what you look for in a chairman game Matt. If you want a league where steps are taken to try to make it more even, then some sacrifices are needed. Having the privilege of being Barcelona should surely be a big enough benefit to outweight the downsides!

However, we could make some sort of addition to the draft rules that any player that is HG at the club, is automatically protected from being drafted. That would encourage us to focus on youth!

 

[AW190]

Well it all depends on what you look for in a chairman game Matt. If you want a league where steps are taken to try to make it more even, then some sacrifices are needed. Having the privilege of being Barcelona should surely be a big enough benefit to outweight the downsides!

However, we could make some sort of addition to the draft rules that any player that is HG at the club, is automatically protected from being drafted. That would encourage us to focus on youth!

I like that point, maybe put a minimum age on the draft picks to stop people stealing the youngsters before they become HG?

 

[savan21]

Well it all depends on what you look for in a chairman game Matt. If you want a league where steps are taken to try to make it more even, then some sacrifices are needed. Having the privilege of being Barcelona should surely be a big enough benefit to outweight the downsides!

However, we could make some sort of addition to the draft rules that any player that is HG at the club, is automatically protected from being drafted. That would encourage us to focus on youth!

Point well made!

 

[Matt419]

Well it all depends on what you look for in a chairman game Matt. If you want a league where steps are taken to try to make it more even, then some sacrifices are needed. Having the privilege of being Barcelona should surely be a big enough benefit to outweight the downsides!

However, we could make some sort of addition to the draft rules that any player that is HG at the club, is automatically protected from being drafted. That would encourage us to focus on youth!

I actually quite like this idea.

Or or perhaps we downgrade to 2 or maybe even 1 (although I feel 2 would be more realistic )

My only problem is that I don't want to buy a player, get really invested in them and then lose them for nothing... And then on,y be able to bring in a worse player

Yeah, i do want it to be even. But, to be fair, this league is already very even. Yes, Barca, Munich and Real Madrid are better than the likes of Liverpool, Leverkusen and Valencia. However, I don't think the gulf in class is that much between the best and worst teams in the league. Also, the fact we all have unlimited FGN transfers should make the playing field even more even

 

[SaintMotbot]

So I've just realised something now that's actually put me off this chairman game a bit. I'm hoping to make a few transfers this window, bring in a few good players. As I imagine everyone else is.

However, erm at the end of this season comes the draft... Now, no doubt by that time if I get all my transfers I will have quite a few players who I want to protect, more than the allotted five for sure. Then I could lose up to three players who I really want to keep at the club. On top of that, provided I do as well as Barca should be doing, I'm going to be one of the last people to pick my drafts. Leaving me with pretty poor choices (as was the case in this draft).

So now I've lost three players. Who I paid for. Who now three other teams have just got for free. And I am only able to replace these players with second rate players from the bottom teams, no doubt from the teams who just got promoted. Who will have worse players to begin with, and won't have taken anyone from the draft or really bought anyone to compete in the platinum league.

Now, this leaves me at a disadvantage. I've just lost three quality players and had to replace them with three average players. Now, sure. In the transfer window I can replace these players. However, when we get to the next draft I will lose yet more quality players and only get second rate players in the draft, no doubt from the newly promoted teams again.

To me, this is very annoying. And from the posts of transfer lists I've seen people are more than willing to negotiate on their best players, apart from their very very best ones (which is the case in any chairman game).

So, after thinking about this, I would very very much like the draft to be scrapped for the second season. Perhaps replace it with a system someone mentioned earlier on where, if someone bids 3x the amount of a players value, the chairman of the other team has to sell them.

Any questions on my thinking, please ask. Other people might not share my views, but on FM I very much enjoy buying young, high potential players and watching them grow. This is the case for both playing by myself and chairman games. With the current system I'll be losing three of those players every season, and on,go able to replace them with mediocre players (as I had to do this season. I lost Ter Stegen, Pique and Iniesta and the best I got was Juan Jesus, Origi and Niang).

Sorry to hear you have issues with the game. I said all along that this was very much a work in progress and an experimental thing. Steps need to be made to ensure that small teams have a chance in this league, and I feel the best team will be the players with the best knowledge of the transfer market/players from lesser leagues which brings a fairly unique challenge. The draft was originally supposed to work one player at a time, so that the issue of all the good players being taken instantly wasn't going to happen, but time constraints didnt allow for that to happen. Another rule of the draft is that you will lose no more than three players from your team, meaning that if you will only lose some players, but you will also gain some.

As has been suggested already, you are fortunate enough to have a massive team with serious financial clout which makes the game easier for you as you can get replacements and recruit young stars.

At the end of the day, everybody is in the same boat, so nobody is at a disadvantage more than anybody else.

All I can suggest is that you are more than welcome to leave if that is what you wish.

 

[IndiBlue]

Yup. And if you need more protection, any player signed in last 2 transfer windows (summer/winter) is automatically immune from the draft. This gives you at least 1.5 seasons to keep hold of that player. Makes sense?

 

[Matt419]

Sorry to hear you have issues with the game. I said all along that this was very much a work in progress and an experimental thing. Steps need to be made to ensure that small teams have a chance in this league, and I feel the best team will be the players with the best knowledge of the transfer market/players from lesser leagues which brings a fairly unique challenge. The draft was originally supposed to work one player at a time, so that the issue of all the good players being taken instantly wasn't going to happen, but time constraints didnt allow for that to happen. Another rule of the draft is that you will lose no more than three players from your team, meaning that if you will only lose some players, but you will also gain some.

As has been suggested already, you are fortunate enough to have a massive team with serious financial clout which makes the game easier for you as you can get replacements and recruit young stars.

At the end of the day, everybody is in the same boat, so nobody is at a disadvantage more than anybody else.

All I can suggest is that you are more than welcome to leave if that is what you wish.

As I mentioned in my post, I can replace those players yeah. But then I can lose them next season.

If we do one player at a time in the draft as well as perhaps going with the rule that HG players are automatically safe from the draft, that would be a lot better than it currently is.

And on the point of Barca having money you've even said yourself that teams will get A LOT of money at the end of each season. I don't think anyone will be lacking for money.

 

[SaintMotbot]

As I mentioned in my post, I can replace those players yeah. But then I can lose them next season.

And I really like you basically just said "you have money, either deal with it or leave".

If we do one player at a time in the draft as well as perhaps going with the rule that HG players are automatically safe from the draft, that would be a lot better than it currently is.

And on the point of Barca having money you've even said yourself that teams will get A LOT of money at the end of each season. I don't think anyone will be lacking for money.

That is essentially what I said yes. Changes are being considered for the next seasons draft, however the game will not be changed just on the whim of one of the top teams just because they dont like losing players.

This game is designed to be a unique challenge, and I feel that making too many alterations will drag it back towards being a regular chairman game which this is not supposed to be.

At the end of the day this game relies on my time and effort to make it all work, so the one player at a time draft system simply will not work on that front. I will take under consideration the home grown player suggestion.

 

[IndiBlue]

As I mentioned in my post, I can replace those players yeah. But then I can lose them next season.

And I really like you basically just said "you have money, either deal with it or leave".

If we do one player at a time in the draft as well as perhaps going with the rule that HG players are automatically safe from the draft, that would be a lot better than it currently is.

And on the point of Barca having money you've even said yourself that teams will get A LOT of money at the end of each season. I don't think anyone will be lacking for money.

You can still pep up your squad by taking some more players from Inter. Few hours before the transfer window slams shut. (I always like saying that )

 

[Matt419]

That is essentially what I said yes. Changes are being considered for the next seasons draft, however the game will not be changed just on the whim of one of the top teams just because they dont like losing players.

This game is designed to be a unique challenge, and I feel that making too many alterations will drag it back towards being a regular chairman game which this is not supposed to be.

At the end of the day this game relies on my time and effort to make it all work, so the one player at a time draft system simply will not work on that front. I will take under consideration the home grown player suggestion.

I was just bringing up a problem that I had and suggesting that it could be looked into being changed. I'm very sorry for having an opinion on the draft that you came up with. In future, I just won't mention any problems

I really wish what I said was taken a bit more seriously though rather than you just brushing it off immediately...

 

[savan21]

Can we activate release clauses of say Players of Barcelona/Atletico?

 

[SaintMotbot]

Can we activate release clauses of say Players of Barcelona/Atletico?

You can indeed, however a lot of these clauses have already been cancelled due to new contracts being offered by the chairmen of these clubs. If you are interested in any of these players, drop me a message and I will check the list for you to see if you can make the deal happen.

 

[savan21]

Also if a player has a release clause which is greater than 2xValue...Would we get him for twice his value or his RC?

 

[SaintMotbot]

Also if a player has a release clause which is greater than 2xValue...Would we get him for twice his value or his RC?

You will pay the lower fee.

 

[SaintMotbot]

I was just bringing up a problem that I had and suggesting that it could be looked into being changed. I'm very sorry for having an opinion on the draft that you came up with. In future, I just won't mention any problems

I really wish what I said was taken a bit more seriously though rather than you just brushing it off immediately...

Once again I can only apologise if you have any problems.

I can assure you though that sarcasm/petulance will not get you anywhere. I have already aknowledged several times that there are problems, and also stated that changes are under consideration. All comments are taken seriously and I am keeping a running list of any opinions or suggestions that anybody offers.

I do quite like the idea of selecting a limited squad and any players not in it go to a draft pool, perhaps much like the MLS system.

As far as I am concerned though, the problem has been raised, you have made your point. Let it lay.

 

[ninjaskill]

Real Madrid Transfer List


Gareth Bale - 47.5 million just over half what he cost a world class player for a decent fee

Karim Benzema - 37.5 Million one of the best strikers and would likely also be willing to blackmail players of other teams on your behalf

Mateo Kovacic - 27.5 million good young CM ideal if you want another player to be meet the U-23 rule and at 21 would do that for the next couple of years

Kovacic is sold

If you want any other player let me know​

 

[Matt419]

Once again I can only apologise if you have any problems.

I can assure you though that sarcasm/petulance will not get you anywhere. I have already aknowledged several times that there are problems, and also stated that changes are under consideration. All comments are taken seriously and I am keeping a running list of any opinions or suggestions that anybody offers.

I do quite like the idea of selecting a limited squad and any players not in it go to a draft pool, perhaps much like the MLS system.

As far as I am concerned though, the problem has been raised, you have made your point. Let it lay.

Okay, thats fine. It's just the way you said it just made it seem like to me you were pretty much brushing it aside. I'm glad it's being taken under consideration and I'm sorry if I came off as a bit of a *****

 

[Matt419]

Oh, what's the situation with finances again? Like do we get a load of money at the end of each season? As well as prize money and money for game wins and draws?

 

[lewie100]

Alright, time for something more important.

-Mission Leverkusen calling PatrickLFC, I repeat, Mission Leverkusen calling PatrickLFC-

 

[savan21]

Oh, what's the situation with finances again? Like do we get a load of money at the end of each season? As well as prize money and money for game wins and draws?

Yes! Plus as of now 100 Million after as year or round about I guess