So i created a game and i am all 4 home nations + Rep. Ireland and i have been using it with different sides and found mixed results.
I will start a game as Bolton tonight and let you know how i do with a club side.
The 442 semi-target man works great with celtic.
I won my first game 8-0 lol
They are on HUB because it slows the game down a bit and some versions it acts like a decoy to draw the opposition on to us. This is also a great pointer as if we using the correct version.If our FBs get closed down very early and we loose possession its time to change to another version were play play more direct( straight towards the goal, not the teams average settings in passing length).
As for the attack away version, here is a qoute from SI, answering the same question
"The reason for me having 7, inlcuding a Attack away, version, is that I want to have 3 version playing with quicker tempo and attack the space that is already there, not caring so much about possessionOverload
- Attack Home
- Counter
....and 3 version playing slower, more patient and with more possession, trying to create space by drawing the opposition out of positionControl
- Control
- y
- Defensive
...and with the Balanced version somewhere in-between with a tempo suited for the formation and with all versions being tweaked from that versions. So in some sets, like the 41221, Balanced will be slower, with the consequence that attack Home will be slower than in one of the 442 sets"
Ah I see (i think). So having the attack quite far from the midfield isn't an issue because your attacking quickly behind the defense rather than passing it to feet then looking for a return pass to a midfielder to retain posession.
It has actually never stoke me to use national sides in testing. In must, despite the lack of matches, be absolute best way as you can pick players freely for the different roles.
Looking forward to your feedback on Bolton. Are you going top try the 4411 ?
Going to go 4-4-2 with TM
hi mate, any news about the 4321???
tks for workin' ^^
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Like Milan style 4-3-2amc-1 ?. If so, then I have taken a break from that formation. The tactic that I am developing now is a quick 41221 using a target man. When that is finished, it will serve as a base for the "Milan-tactic"
BetterHalf- fantastic insight and detail- thanks. The key to your tactics seems to be reading the AI and reacting to its changes (which i am rubbish at and find the game v frustrating).
Can u explain how to read the AI and especially when they change tempo or become more attacking/defensive? Watching the full match is obviously a starting point.
Seeing how high their D-line is, i am sure is obvious!
Then do you look at how much they close you down?- if so what does this indicate?
How high up the pitch their wingers/AMC are, short or long passing etc?
ps your individual match analysis for happy hammers was really helpful. if u have more please post. otherwise best of luck with it!!
In the Attack version i've noticed the DM has attacking mentality where one of the strikers is normal (Diamond formation).
Why's this?
hi mate, one more check: in the 4231 NO Target Man, the Overload version seems be the "ATBH - 4411 - 1 - OVERLOAD".
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Just read this. Is it possible to see how high their Dline/What sort of passing style they have is etc?
If you look at all the versions, you will see that the Target Man, in most versions anyway, are deep dropping and that the DMC has a higher mentality than the AMC, to make them play closer together
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Yes, they are supposed to be the same, maybe I forgot to rename it to 4231-overload. Just like the SUS version that I have inluded in some sets.
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Are you referring to the games that I have played, in the happy hammer project or how to spot this in your game( pregame maybe ) ?
Cheeers man. Howcome there isn't a gap between Defense/Midfield if the DM mentality is high though?
With regards to the last bit. Both really. I have a scout with 20 tactical knowledge so i can get the size of the pitch but not generally how they'll play with regards to D-line etc. How do you know during the game? All i have to go by is their formation.
Also how did you adapt in your games. Like an example of you starting with a tactic, then the computer using a diff tactic so you switch yours to something else.
This tactic is GOOD
but i have a problem, The Target Man, don't score.
My three Target Mans failed to do the job
Is this a tactic problem? or my striker isn't gelling?
my Fast striker is a real start, Bojan scored 30 goals from there 1 one season, Balotelli has 7 goals in 10 matches, Pato performed with rating of 5 for about 5 matches, because i got him on free, i sold him to Barcelona for 22M, without goals in first team