***THE BETTER HALFS TACTIC UPLOAD & DISCUSSION

nowi41 said:
great tactics, but still got some minor questions,

1\ why is that i cant change the player role for a player in the tactic book screen after using the tactic in this thread. i notice there is a capital C before the name of your tactic, does that mean its a classic tactic so that some features are not applied?

2\ i cant make shout instructions during a game after using this tactic, the same reason as question 1?

thx a lot man!
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Spot on ! These tactics have been converted into Classic mode, hence no preset roles or shouts can be used. Even if I had stayed with the Tactic Creator, all settings would have tweaked, making the change of roles and shouts useless as the tweaked instructions override all team instructions etc.
 
Update:


I am currently trying my PLUG & PLAY tactics from 12.2.2 in FM13. So far, results have been even better than in FM12, using middle teams and underdogs. Will update the thread later and put links in the OP under "FM13 Tactics" to those that have been tested

:D
 
TheBetterHalf : do you only make classic tactics? i find that the downloadable tactics that performs by far the best, is classic tactics! why do you think that is?
 
Runeaa said:
TheBetterHalf : do you only make classic tactics? i find that the downloadable tactics that performs by far the best, is classic tactics! why do you think that is?
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Simply put, its because I dont find the preset settings in the Tactic Creator good enough. Naturally, I could have gone with just tweaking all the sliders, still using the Tactic Creator, the result would have been the same :D

This early in FM13, many of the Classic Tactics use " work arounds" to avoid players not closing down, also exploiting the fact the AI have problems with this, but even in FM12 I found tweaking sliders in a logical way to be better than the TC-settings even though NOT using any exploits.

And no, I dont only make Classic Tactics. I will probably make some TC-ones to, but these will not be uploaded, but insetad, they will be presented jst like in FM12, using screens as inspiration for users to look at and tweak to suit their team/squad :D
 

TheBetterHalfs Underdog/Middleteam
Football Manager 2013

The Direct Counter
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Abstract

Here you will 2 versions that is to be used as plug & play tactics. These are mainly suitable for Middle Teamas and Underdogs since the approach is rather defensive and on the counter. This style is mainly for the casual games or for those that likes to focus on squad building and/or dont have the knowledge as how to make a good tactic. The tactics can be used both in the Prem aswell as in the BSS

The Tactics are made with the Classic Mode, hence shouts and roles cant be implemented. This also means that it does not work in the FMC


The
Versions

This small set consist of 2 versions that are to be used as plug & play tactics. The first version is called "High Press", the 2nd "Lower press" If you feel that you have the ability to disturb the opponent by putting a **** of a lot more pressure on them, then use the high press and if you are more scared that you might be dragged out of position then use the lower press version.

In short, the HIGH PRESS is when "feeling" like the favourite and the LOWER PRESS when feeling like you are the underdog. Not only in terms of status and quality, but also regarding form and by looking at the flow of the game

Formation & Team settings


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The flow
using Underdogs

As soon as a counter attack is launched, we keep a direct
game and channel t-balls from the middle onto the flanks for our 3 attacking
players to tun onto. Our single MC keeps a restricted game but he is supported
by 2 more attacking minded DMCs that always seeks free space. When our fullbacks
get into possession deep down field, they hold on to the ball to drag the
opposition onto them.This means that if we face a tea sitting deep and defend,
our attacking players are likely to make a run forward in vain and the FBs hold
onto the ball, making these attacking players easy to mark as the opposition
simply denies us space to play these direct t-balls into. This is why this
approach is for underdogs and perhaps middle teams.

The flow using better
teams/ top teams

It does work for top teams to, don't get me wrong. You
would easily win the league with Man U, Man C but the flow wont look as good as
playing a different approach and you will see more 1-0, 2-1 wins instead of 3-0.
5-1 etc. Simply put, there is no reason to use it unless you like being in agony
over those longshots

The players



All players:
Determination, Team Work, Work rate and Decision
Also notice that I have not
brought the "common sense stats" in any of the players beneath, like finishing
for the strikers or passing for all players etc.

Fullbacks
Style of play
When not launching an counter attack, they should stay back so no
ppms like " get forward" etc. These player act like holding players and when
seeing fit, they will try to beat their man
Stats
Here, we are looking for pace, anticipation, positioning, stamina and tackling. Dribbling is a huge plus
to.


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Central Defenders
Style of play
As we use loose zonal marking, make sure that they don't have the ppm " like to
tight mark"
Stats:
The normal ones: Remember that Anticipation are crucial
for any top team and that pace is needed if the opponent launches balls over the
top of the defenders. Remember that the worse concentration they have, the more
likely you are to concede late in games and when you are dominating but not
scoring yourself


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DMC´´S - Deep & Roaming
Box To Box Midfielders, hardworking
Style of play
Here we use 2 deep
BBM´s that roam to seek free space. The left is the more creative with higher
flair and decision stats.
Stats
Stamina, Strength, anticipation, tackling,
Concentration

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MC - The Ballwinner
Style of play
Here we use a more limited MC that is used mainly as a ballwinner.
He keeps a much shorter passing game and does not look to play a direct ball but
instead wait for the DMCs to get forward. If this player has a good decision stats along with a great shot, he can be extremly leathal !! In fact, when testing this with Everton, Gibson scored 9 goals in 15 matches from this position.
Stats
Stamina, Strength, anticipation,
tackling, Concentration
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AMR/LWingers - Complete Wingforwards
Style of play:
As the wingers are used as both pacey Wingforwards AND defensive
hardworking wingers, its naturally COMPLETE players that will do the best of
job. But as these players are really hard to find, I crucial that they most of
all are physical classic English Wingers, that they know how to close down and
tackle. Inverted wingers ?. Well why not, the more clinical finisher the
better
Stats
Pace, off the ball,flair, crossing

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Forward - The Pacey Poacher
Style of play:
This is the main goalscorer when facing teams pushing up their defence. He
needs to be able to find space, break free from his marker by dribbling past
him. When he moves down the line into channels, its also good if he has good
team work stat so he cross the ball to a team mate instead of taking the poor
angle. At higher levels, this player can actually be a player like Tevez or
Aguero, RVP, a player that likes to come deep to get the ball or plays with the back towards the goal. If playing with an underdog 2nd season, I would advice picking up BILLY SHARPE from so´ton, he is a beast here !
Stats:
Off the all, Flair, Agility, First touch, Technique



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Tweaks and Shouts
As its a plug
& play Tactic using classic mode, I use no tweaks and shouts are enabled

Opposition instruction
I have not used any at all but feel free to
use them in a manor that suit the actual formation. ( i.e NOT showing MR/L
wingers inside if they use overlaping fullbacks

Playmaker & Target
Man
None is used


Match prep
There is no focus area that i
crucial for the flow of the tactic. If you face a team that are great at set
pieces and might focus on attacking set pieces as their only chance, use
defensive set pieces. If up against a team you know are going to play really
deep and compact BUT have poor attackers, then use attacking movement. If up
against a team with really pacey and agile FCs, then use defensive positioning
etc etc. Naturally, I use Team Work on a heavy workload in preseason but
remember that when using a focus area that relates to the match plan ( like def
positioning), the workload have no impact what so ever.

Pitch Size
Looking at the tactic and the circumstance, and you will see the
following

•-Close down heavily: Meaning that the bigger pitch, in theory
the bigger area to close down. So teams with players lacking in stamina would
prefer a smaller pitch.

•Focus the play through the middle: If the pitch
is really short, there will be congestion in the middle will struggle to find
space.

•- Its a tactic for underdogs, hence opponents are likely to push
up and use the width or the field, : Here, a really wide pitch means that these
quality players will get too much space

•- The deep d-line and the balls
into channels - AS we play a deep d-line, we can actually use a long pitch and
as we play a more direct game, putting those t-balls into channels, we would
benefit from this long pitch in our attacks to. That is if our 3 attacking
players does have great pace and good stamina

So, in short, I would go
for a Longer but more narrow pitch


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I have not found your instructions regarding the preparation of match.

What are your tips?
 
intensa said:
I have not found your instructions regarding the preparation of match.

What are your tips?
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It highly depends on the opposition

- If playing with a top team and are using the Attacking possession approach, I would probably go for Attacking movement unless its a team that has really, really strong headers and have scored 5 goals from corners in their 6 matches, then defensive set pieces might be a good idea.

- If playing the counter version and really want to punish their slow defenders, you can again go for the Att. movement but if you fear their superior movement, then def. positioning is the way to go.

- If you feel your only chance is playing cautious, then you might go for Def.positioning, but if you feel comfortable in this area and it looks like you have a taller team then them ( like Celtic versu Barca), then your best chance might be using Cautious Possession and using Att.set pieces :D

So, it depends
 
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Just when I gave up on my Swansea save, you come up with this :D

Gonna start a new Arsenal save tomorrow, is there a set that you would recommend in particular? The board wants me to play attacking and possession based football.
 
Icksdeh said:
Just when I gave up on my Swansea save, you come up with this :D

Gonna start a new Arsenal save tomorrow, is there a set that you would recommend in particular? The board wants me to play attacking and possession based football.
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That depends. Would you like to really put the effort into it and watch the game or do you prefer just plug & play and change approach at half time in needed ?


You can also add me here and we can chat now

http://www.facebook.com/thebetterhalf.tbh ( add me on Facebook)
 
jcrook88 said:
so youve made a set of four but the most you can upload is 3.....great
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Have you actually read the opening post??

So in your opinion it's a bad approach despite that the Tactic Creator has 7 strategies, 5 philos a long list of shouts and roles one can use,making it about 10.000 versions. And you worry about 4 versions !!!
 
no but your team can only ever train 3 styles at once meaning that one of the four will always be unfamiliar, you know more than me mate im just asking a question
 
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