***THE BETTER HALFS TACTIC UPLOAD & DISCUSSION

stevelcfc2008 said:
Thanks for that, I managed to do the same with LCFC in FM12 played a 424 and won the premier league. Just cant seem to find or create a decent tactic this year with anyone let alone LCFC! Sorry shouldve mentioned before that I noticed your success was on FM12. Do you think this tactic will work with LCFC this season? They do seem to have relatively the same squad.
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I have to played with them yet so I dont know. Looking at the squad only tells you so much, you have to play about 3 months to see if there are enough people in the squad willing to die for promotion.
 
ok can i first start off by saying sorry, i was rude to you the other day and extremely naive to suggest you shouldnt release a set of four....i now know you are.....THE MASTER.This set of tactics is by FAR the best on this website i have speny hours playing around with my own formation and literally everyone elses tactics on here...raikan koflok mr hough etc etc. In my chelsea save season one using this set from pre season (i dont use overload i simply dont like it and it doesnt suit chelseas players) i juggle around with def possesion, att possesion and counter (counter is beast away from home!!!!) i have won the league cup, won the club world cup, 15 points clear in the league and unbeaten, qualified through a hard cl group and am 4 0 up on agg against milan in 1st ko round. im in the f a cup quaters and seem to be on for an unprecidented 7 trophies in one season. BEST OF ALL MY TEAM IS ALL KIDS!!! line up is koval, azpilicueta,romeu,terry,willems,ramires, wellington nem,hazard,oscar,sharawwy, ademilson plus about 6 more 5 star pottentials on the bench lukaku,rodrigo etc, i am a football game veteran and love fifa and fm, but i have to hand it to you on this, simply amazing and a big thankyou and well done :)
 
What tactic do you prefer for LLM clubs? LLM is like the 4th division in England.
 
also to any fm newcomers trying this formation, once its fluid its a million times better as all tactics are, this is the best you wlll find on here, another thing, never use key highlights as i am convinced that there is a glitch which makes you get less opportunities, on extended highlights you can evaluate the situation and constantly change versions to suit the situation, just a tip but it defo works
 
jcrook88 said:
ok can i first start off by saying sorry, i was rude to you the other day and extremely naive to suggest you shouldnt release a set of four....i now know you are.....THE MASTER.

This set of tactics is by FAR the best on this website i have speny hours playing around with my own formation and literally everyone elses tactics on here...raikan koflok mr hough etc etc. In my chelsea save season one using this set from pre season (i dont use overload i simply dont like it and it doesnt suit chelseas players) i juggle around with def possesion, att possesion and counter (counter is beast away from home!!!!) i have won the league cup, won the club world cup, 15 points clear in the league and unbeaten, qualified through a hard cl group and am 4 0 up on agg against milan in 1st ko round. im in the f a cup quaters and seem to be on for an unprecidented 7 trophies in one season.

BEST OF ALL MY TEAM IS ALL KIDS!!! line up is koval, azpilicueta,romeu,terry,willems,ramires, wellington nem,hazard,oscar,sharawwy, ademilson plus about 6 more 5 star pottentials on the bench lukaku,rodrigo etc, i am a football game veteran and love fifa and fm, but i have to hand it to you on this, simply amazing and a big thankyou and well done :)
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Thank you ! You where not rude though. Its hard to use a "tone" on a forum so no worries :D

Those results are great, well done !!!
 
MadMax said:
What tactic do you prefer for LLM clubs? LLM is like the 4th division in England.
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It actually depens on the players. If you have players that are able to keep possession, I would use all but Overload. If you have a team that cant defend anyway, then its better to use Overload at home and Counter when playing away.
 
jcrook88 said:
also to any fm newcomers trying this formation, once its fluid its a million times better as all tactics are, this is the best you wlll find on here, another thing, never use key highlights as i am convinced that there is a glitch which makes you get less opportunities, on extended highlights you can evaluate the situation and constantly change versions to suit the situation, just a tip but it defo works
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Thanks and I must say that this is a crucial piece of advice. I always use extended highlights to that one can actually see what is happening on the pitch.
 
For those struggling with the version picking, this advice is a really good one


"I am actually using the tactics from the bottom of the original post. I didn't actually read it properly I suppose and just guessed they were the ones designed for FM2013. I suppose it doesn't matter because even though they are designed for FM2012 it is still definitely working for me.

I am currently in Febuary and still top of the English Premier League with Everton (1st season with no money spent). Ive got passed the period where I thought I may just be being lucky to actually really admiring the tactic. I have slightly switched how I use it from my post before which I will explain.

I start with the attacking possession against all sides apart from Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, & Arsenal at home. After 20minutes I see if we are dominating possession and how many chances the opponenets are having, if the opponents have had 4-5 chances in the first 20minutes and I am dominating possession I switch to cautious (so that I keep the possession advantage but dont concede as many chances against). If the opposition is winning the possession battle (even if its 50-50) I will switch to counter attack, I do this often and counter attack is when I have scored the most amount of goals.

I then review the game after 45 minutes, 60 minutes, and 75 minutes in a similar format. I dont tend to switch even from attacking if I am dominating the match. I will often switch to counter attack in the last 30-20minutes if I am 1 goal up and its a tight game.

Against the above mentioned teams at home, and also top 8 teams away from home I will start with the counter attack tactic. This is very secure defensively and its actually a bonus if the opposition control possession because it gives you more chance of scoring through a counter-attack. I very rarely switch from this during the game however if I go behind I may switch to attacking, also if the opposition is dominating possession, creating a lot of chances, and stopping me creating chances I will switch to cautious possession.

I can't see why this wouldnt work with Everton and not other top 8 sides. The AI finds it nearly impossible to pick up the whole 7 def midfield, midfield, and offensive midfield players therefore creating oppurtunities isn't a problem. Defensively the attacking possession can have holes but this is usually matched with creating more than the opposition. However a good keeper is important Howard is averaging 7.3 for me at the moment and had a few MOM.

I would encourage anyone who isn't have success with the FM2013 designed tactics to try the ones at the bottom of the original post in the format I am using. "
 
I normally use extended but was contemplating using comprehensive, would that show me anymore than i really need to know? Im starting a game with LCFC now but due to lack of FBs im trying out your 352 formation counter to start with any maybe if we are good at possession try the attacking formation
 
Hello TBH,

I read a lot of discussions on this forum and it's a real study. Like I said, I'm using this tactic and stick on it. For now it works and I want to see where it get lead me when I strengthen my squad.

But out of curiosity, the idea of your tactics is the same, but do you have a favourite?
 
Wallemme said:
Hello TBH,

I read a lot of discussions on this forum and it's a real study. Like I said, I'm using this tactic and stick on it. For now it works and I want to see where it get lead me when I strengthen my squad.

But out of curiosity, the idea of your tactics is the same, but do you have a favourite?
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Amongst my different sets, my Asymmetric ones are my favourite as they let you play your best players where they do the most damage. So far, 2 of them are uploaded but I am making more an more of them as we speak
 
Hi TBH,

I found your FM12 4231 works quite well on FM13. The following is how I played with Arsenal. Thank you very much for your wonderful efforts.

Thebetterhalf.freeforums.org • View topic - 4231 - Cautious - Counter - Attack

When every match start, I watch the opponent's Goals Analysis. The time he scored more, it is the defend time. The time he conceded more, it is the attack time. And I will switch different tactic according to the defend/attack time.


For example, if meet Swansea, and Arsenal is the favorite. At the defend time, I will use cautious 4231. At attack time, I will use attack 4231.
For example, if meet Chelsea, and Arsenal is not the favorite. At the defend time, I will use counter 4231. At attack time, I will use cautious 4231.



Right now, first season, my Arsenal is 22 win, 6 draw, 3 loss, sitting at the top on Apr 5th . Win at home for Champions Cup Qtr Final. On the way to FA cup semi Final.


I only bought Baines for 10.5M at January, loan Santos out.


My team is the following:


GK: Szczesny / Fabianski / Mannone
DR: Sagna / Jenkinson
DL: Baines/ Gibbs / Santos
DC: Vermaelen / Mertesacker / Koscielny / Djourou / Squillaci
MCL (Defend) : Arteta ( 5 goal, 6 assist)/ Coquelin ( 4 goal, 2 assist)/ Frimpong ( 2 goal, 2 assist)
MCR (Suppport) : Diaby ( 3goal, 6 assist)/ Ramsey ( 2 goal, 4 assist)
AMC : Cazorla ( 7 goal, 7 assist)/ Wilshere ( 8 goal, 4 assist) / Arshavin ( 3 goal, 2 assist) / Rosicky ( 1 goal, 5 assist)
AML : Podolski ( 7goal, 6 assist) / Chemberlain (2 goal, 3 assist)
AMR: Gervinho (6 goal, 6 assist) /Walcott (8 goal, 8 assist)
FC: Giroud (19 goal) / chamakh (13 goal)


The team all works perfectly, only I am not that satified with Santos performance. There are always injuries, but I survived.....


I kept using this way, and it is quite enjoyable for my FM13 right now.
 
had an amazing pre-season playing as chelsea second season, will post an update after playing a few competitive games, as that gives a better representation i think... will post screenies soon...
 
I will try this with City as well and see how it goes, be interested to see if you went left or right with city. Myself im thinking right with Maicon in that position but then there is Clichy as well so toss up really.
 
rush1884 said:
I will try this with City as well and see how it goes, be interested to see if you went left or right with city. Myself im thinking right with Maicon in that position but then there is Clichy as well so toss up really.
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I started with the AMR, WBL but I have loaded attack and Counter in that and the Cautious in the mirrored version. This way, My team learned both formations and I switch just before kick off to the version/formation I want to use, all depending on form, injuries and the opponents strengths AMS weaknesses.
 
i use chelsea

with some new players like, hatem ben arfa, radja nainggolan, victor wanyama, and demba ba

is it better with attacking & caution possesions? or counter & overload? but i like counter tactic mostly so which tactic should i use?
 
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i'm using this tactic with Derby County. Attacking Left Mirror looks great but Counter left Mirror didn't do well for my team. so far, i won 6, draw 2, lose 1.
 
Breathe in, breath out...... Don't get frustrated....

Lost four of the last five games. First defeat can happen, no tactic garantee only victories. Then recovered and won a good match against a stronger side. After that lost two games against Dutch topteams, FC Twente and Ajax, which can happen. Then I played Excelsior, second level in Holland, for the Cup. I thought that the player would got a boost playing a weaker squad. But I lost and the most frustrating was that they played better....

Played most matches with the counter version, started against Excelsior with the attacking one, but switched to counter when I saw that they had more ballposession.

Almost threw my computer out of the window....

This I try to keep relaxed and stick with the tactic, but what is this game frustrating.

The fun for me is to have an decent tactic and by strengthen my squad and grow to a higher level. But still sometimes I would like to smash my head against a wall. Don't think that would help, so I try to control myself.
 
riddance said:
i use chelsea

with some new players like, hatem ben arfa, radja nainggolan, victor wanyama, and demba ba

is it better with attacking & caution possesions? or counter & overload? but i like counter tactic mostly so which tactic should i use?
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I would use Attack, Counter and Cautious as starting versions.
 
sometime i had more on target shots (from outside the box) goals

i re-read the this thread to learn again

but i thinking of switching to asymmetric tactics
 
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