***THE BETTER HALFS TACTIC UPLOAD & DISCUSSION

hi i am playing the non-classic version with AMR and ML.
i am playing Douglas Costa in AMR, AMC=Ben Afra, David Alaba as ML, should I play Cabaye in MC or DMC? if DMC then can Tiote play as DMC?
i have also got Niangallon and M'vila (but M'villa is injured for 3 months)

I have played about 7 games and the results have been mixed. not sure if its gelling issue or PPM of my players (time will tell) I know this is a plug and play but say if you are a goal down. is there anything i can change to make it more attacking? say looking for a late goal to draw or steal a win in the dying minutes? cheers
 
hi i am playing the non-classic version with AMR and ML.
i am playing Douglas Costa in AMR, AMC=Ben Afra, David Alaba as ML, should I play Cabaye in MC or DMC? if DMC then can Tiote play as DMC?
i have also got Niangallon and M'vila (but M'villa is injured for 3 months)

I have played about 7 games and the results have been mixed. not sure if its gelling issue or PPM of my players (time will tell) I know this is a plug and play but say if you are a goal down. is there anything i can change to make it more attacking? say looking for a late goal to draw or steal a win in the dying minutes? cheers

Tiote as DMC
Cabaye as MC

As for the results, how many players have bought for this season, are the gelled, do they speak English ?
Attacking: Not really, you just make small adjustments as you see fit. Perhaps push up and play a 4222
 
Tiote as DMC
Cabaye as MC

As for the results, how many players have bought for this season, are the gelled, do they speak English ?
Attacking: Not really, you just make small adjustments as you see fit. Perhaps push up and play a 4222

this is my first team:

GK=Krul
LB=Santon
CB= jan kirchhoff
CB=Steven Taylor
DR=Sebastien Corchia
ML=David Alaba
DM=Tiote/Niangllon
MC=Cabaye/M'villa
AMR=Douglas Costa
AMC=Ben Afra
FC=Cisse/Defo/Kwueke
 
this is my first team:

GK=Krul
LB=Santon
CB= jan kirchhoff
CB=Steven Taylor
DR=Sebastien Corchia
ML=David Alaba
DM=Tiote/Niangllon
MC=Cabaye/M'villa
AMR=Douglas Costa
AMC=Ben Afra
FC=Cisse/Defo/Kwueke

I think that once your 2 new defenders are gelled and have settled and picked up some English ( along with the rest of the new players being settled to), the tactic will become more stable.
 
Hey TBH, been using this tactic for half a season with Swansea and so far it is a bit hit and miss. If I go 1 goal up, I am never confident of not conceding. I keep thinking that it is down to the fact my players just aren't good enough, but then I see other people with lower teams who are getting major success out of it. Have a look at a few screenshots and see if you can pick up on anything?

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Hey TBH, been using this tactic for half a season with Swansea and so far it is a bit hit and miss. If I go 1 goal up, I am never confident of not conceding. I keep thinking that it is down to the fact my players just aren't good enough, but then I see other people with lower teams who are getting major success out of it. Have a look at a few screenshots and see if you can pick up on anything?

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079ca7233458573.jpg


cc424e233458663.jpg

Sorry, but I cant seem to click the images and make them bigger
 
apologies. Give this a try:



Here are some thoughts about the team/squad building

Disclaimer:
I have not played with Swansea so I dont know their mentals stats such as Pressure and how professional they are. For this, I need the scout reportcards.

The language barrier:
Chico, V.DBorre, Cirigliano, Pablo Hernandez, Michu, Admilson, Buonanotte: They are all new and dont speak English
This along with more transfers like Ki Sung etc makes you have an ungelled team

Cirigliano:
I cant see his stats & ppms in my save ( needs scouting). Is he strong enough for this role ?

Britton as DMC
This player is a deep box2box so I would unlearn the "comes deep to get ball", thats for the MC to have

Nathan Dyer as ML:
For a lesser team like Swansea, you cant afford using a player like this in ML. He is just too weak defensivly

The Height:
Your team somewhat lacks in height and you will concede goals from set pieces and crosses

All this means that I would pethaps not expect more than a place between 8-16, all depending in their mental stats
 
Quality feedback mate. Yeah Cirigliano has actually been my best player. I have possibly bought him a season or two early, but his stats are increasing all the time.

Cheers for the feedback. I'll get working on the issues
 
this tactic looks awesome.

im starting a new save, still deciding on what team but im definently going to use this tactic.

want a mid - bottom of the table team in england, or a top half team in spain or italy, any ideas of a team that would work buddy?
 
Long time lurker, just had to register to say thank you for these tactics.

I've been struggling to enjoy FM13 with all the changes from the beta on-wards, but your tactics have re-ignited my love for the game.

Progress so far as been:

Spurs (no big transfers, I only ever buy young players)

1st season: Won PL, Won Euro Cup
2nd season: Won PL, Qtr final CL (unlucky injuries)

Current statistics:

Games played: 122
Won: 83
Drawn: 23
Lost: 16

Goals scored: 249
Goals conceded: 76

Win ratio: 68%

So again, thank you for your work.
 
this tactic looks awesome.

im starting a new save, still deciding on what team but im definently going to use this tactic.

want a mid - bottom of the table team in england, or a top half team in spain or italy, any ideas of a team that would work buddy?


West Ham, Wigan, Southampton. Those clubs have players that functions as a TEAM so when putting your touch on the club, don't try to run before you can walk. If you feel you need to strengthen the squad, be carfull so you dont replace hardworking teamplayers that knows how to handle pressure with players that whilst having higher " Potential Ability", aren't willing to die for you or even worse, don't know how to speak English. Naturally you can bring in some promising Brazilian players but have realistic expectations of them. Very few South Americans are able to settle in England with ease so I might take up to a whole season.
 
Long time lurker, just had to register to say thank you for these tactics.

I've been struggling to enjoy FM13 with all the changes from the beta on-wards, but your tactics have re-ignited my love for the game.

Progress so far as been:

Spurs (no big transfers, I only ever buy young players)

1st season: Won PL, Won Euro Cup
2nd season: Won PL, Qtr final CL (unlucky injuries)

Current statistics:

Games played: 122
Won: 83
Drawn: 23
Lost: 16

Goals scored: 249
Goals conceded: 76

Win ratio: 68%

So again, thank you for your work.

Fantastic results. I also shows the importance of being patient with he squad and not re-build it straight away.
 
Just wanted to post, since I've used this tactic for a little over a season and really love it.

I had gotten fired from BSS and was offered the job at Arzanese in the Italian C2 league. Signed some free transfers in the summer using the stated roles for the tactic as the basis of my search. Overall I would say my squad strength was probably average (the media prediction was probably off because I signed alot of players after the predictions went out). I won the league on the last day of the season with a +50 goal differential, in the top 3 of both scored goals and least goals against.

Goals are varied. Yes, the striker scores alot, but the AMC, AML, and MR all put in around 10 goals for me. The striker was at about a goal a game. His most was 4 in a match. He is probably one of the best strikers in the league so it's not unbelievable.

I used defensive positioning for match prep. For a while I was trying out other match prep and Def Pos definitely seems to be the way to go.

It is MADDENING the way the defense in this game plays wingers. Fullbacks seem to just let a guy run right past them for an easy cross. And defenders seem to be much worse in the air than in years past. I only really conceded two types of goals:
1) two defenders close down one player leaving a wide open hole for a CCC.
2) a FB just runs right next to and/or behind a winger running with the ball and allows an easy cross, which none of my players bother to attack and it turns into a goal.

Still, I can't complain much about defense. I mean I won the league and the other guys get paid too, right? I just really question the way the ME looks when it handles winger/defender interactions. It looks awful. But in reality I'm not sure that defending is too terrible. Wing play and crosses have been underrepresented for years.

Sometimes I thought the DMC had too much of a tendency to bomb forward and leave the defense out to dry. He had no ppms. However, I thought the midfield pivot was awesome to watch. I've never seen a midfield in FM play so fluidly and intelligently together. It was alot of fun. Just occasionally too many players would get forward.

I found that motivation and team talks were insanely important. If I let my assistant do it, he always used assertive, and my team would get nervous and anxious and all that bad stuff. But if I used calm, and took his advice, my players were always composed or better, for the most part. Literally if I had one bad match and yelled at my players, we would go on a run of 4 or 5 games of bad form. It was really, really hard playing the motivation game for this team. But very rewarding in the end, because I felt my attention to detail was what really won us the league. Before, I had thought that tactics were the reason everyone is saying fm13 is so hard. But I am starting to think it's motivation. I've really had to change up my process from years past.

Last thing, I played much, much better in away matches than at home. At home, I would usually score early, then almost ALWAYS I would get hit back in the second half. It was really frustrating playing at home. I LOVED going away though. Most matches I was up 2-0 or even 3-0 before 30 minutes. I am guessing this is just the average quality of my squad and the AI playing a bit more defensively and counter-attacking. This tactic can definitely be counter-attacked and that's usually how most of my concessions happened.

Anyway I love this tactic, it's one of my favorites that I've ever used in FM. This season was one of the most fun I've yet played. Thanks for the great work!
 
Just wanted to post, since I've used this tactic for a little over a season and really love it.

I had gotten fired from BSS and was offered the job at Arzanese in the Italian C2 league. Signed some free transfers in the summer using the stated roles for the tactic as the basis of my search. Overall I would say my squad strength was probably average (the media prediction was probably off because I signed alot of players after the predictions went out). I won the league on the last day of the season with a +50 goal differential, in the top 3 of both scored goals and least goals against.

Goals are varied. Yes, the striker scores alot, but the AMC, AML, and MR all put in around 10 goals for me. The striker was at about a goal a game. His most was 4 in a match. He is probably one of the best strikers in the league so it's not unbelievable.

I used defensive positioning for match prep. For a while I was trying out other match prep and Def Pos definitely seems to be the way to go.

It is MADDENING the way the defense in this game plays wingers. Fullbacks seem to just let a guy run right past them for an easy cross. And defenders seem to be much worse in the air than in years past. I only really conceded two types of goals:
1) two defenders close down one player leaving a wide open hole for a CCC.
2) a FB just runs right next to and/or behind a winger running with the ball and allows an easy cross, which none of my players bother to attack and it turns into a goal.

Still, I can't complain much about defense. I mean I won the league and the other guys get paid too, right? I just really question the way the ME looks when it handles winger/defender interactions. It looks awful. But in reality I'm not sure that defending is too terrible. Wing play and crosses have been underrepresented for years.

Sometimes I thought the DMC had too much of a tendency to bomb forward and leave the defense out to dry. He had no ppms. However, I thought the midfield pivot was awesome to watch. I've never seen a midfield in FM play so fluidly and intelligently together. It was alot of fun. Just occasionally too many players would get forward.

I found that motivation and team talks were insanely important. If I let my assistant do it, he always used assertive, and my team would get nervous and anxious and all that bad stuff. But if I used calm, and took his advice, my players were always composed or better, for the most part. Literally if I had one bad match and yelled at my players, we would go on a run of 4 or 5 games of bad form. It was really, really hard playing the motivation game for this team. But very rewarding in the end, because I felt my attention to detail was what really won us the league. Before, I had thought that tactics were the reason everyone is saying fm13 is so hard. But I am starting to think it's motivation. I've really had to change up my process from years past.

Last thing, I played much, much better in away matches than at home. At home, I would usually score early, then almost ALWAYS I would get hit back in the second half. It was really frustrating playing at home. I LOVED going away though. Most matches I was up 2-0 or even 3-0 before 30 minutes. I am guessing this is just the average quality of my squad and the AI playing a bit more defensively and counter-attacking. This tactic can definitely be counter-attacked and that's usually how most of my concessions happened.

Anyway I love this tactic, it's one of my favorites that I've ever used in FM. This season was one of the most fun I've yet played. Thanks for the great work!



It's posts like this that makes me put up my tactics for download and discussion. Really happy you are enjoying FM !
 
Hi TBH, I now trying your tactic with Malaga but away the results are very poor... The team don't shoot and i only draw away (sorry for mi english im from spain)
 
Great tactic!

Hi TBH.

First of all, thanks for all the hard work.

The tactic has made my life as a Liverpool manager so much easier, but its like im lacking the final things to make this perfect. I win many of my hard games, only to find my self losing to lower class teams.

What do you need from me in order to figure out whats wrong?
 
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