v0lliz - 433 V15.3.1

[toivonen]

Yes. I those are the changes. I also have the throw-ins set to short and 4 defenders on "stay back" and everyone else on "come short" (on both sides), but from what I can tell it makes no difference as the corner setup is used anyways when you have the "bullet throw" players (I don't remember if this was already part of the original).

I uploaded it here : View attachment 881706 if you wanna have a look, but I'm pretty sure that's the only changes I made. I just change mentality to "attacking" at home.

*edit* Oh and I always used DR on left corner and DL on right corner (to make them in swinging). Not sure if it really matters though.

what training and OP?

 

[TommiHelm]

what training and OP?

I already answered that two posts below the one you quoted.

 

[Jamesybhoy1977]

Volliz you are the man,

Love these tactics

Got a Man U save and just flit between the three

love battering the West Broms and Sunderlands with the 523 tactic

good work fella

 

[Azeiteiro]

v0lliz-433-mod, thank you for sharing this wonderful tactic , because of you I returned to play FM15

Patch 15.3.2

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[abbes]

ok, i want to say just one thing. those tactics are aboslutely the best in FM15. u created the f*ckin' beast guys.
am doin' the Brazilian Hero achivement on steam right now, with mix of JStweak V11 and one of the first tweaks from ILoveLamp i think. i made it to Brazilian serie A. now am complete ***** underdog, just look on that:
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in this case i supposed to don't win any game, but...

quite hard start of the season, a lot of games with teams from the top of the league (Botafogo home? Flamengo? Corinthians? both away?)
and the results:
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home am using the very first version - JSTweak v11. definitely the f*ckin' beast.
away i was using tweak which i mentioned in this post earlier, but results were really terrible (eg. with Corinthians i lost 7-2). so i decided to try again with the whole season, this time with Volliz 4-5-1 for away games. results u can see - AMAZING.

i keep u posted when i finish the season, but am sure i'll be much above expectations.

btw. FMC, instant result.

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Sao Paulo what? they are predicted as 1st to win the league.

 

[zaqwes]

Abbes can you put a link to tactics which you're using? Because i'm struggling right now playing FMC and instant result/ jestem leniwy i nie chce mi się szukać tych taktyk.


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[abbes]

Abbes can you put a link to tactics which you're using? Because i'm struggling right now playing FMC and instant result/ jestem leniwy i nie chce mi się szukać tych taktyk.


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sure m8 / jasne, nie ma problemu .

and like i said before:
Volliz Tweak 433 - one of the first tweaks by ILoveLamp, i think. usually i was using it as a away tactic, but for really big underdogs it's not working.
v0lliz - 451 - working amazing away, am beating heavy favorites with it.
JStweakv11 - for me the best home tactic ever.

 

[zaqwes]

Thanks! Do you use any match plans?


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[abbes]

no, i don't like when *** Man mess up too much with original tactic, and i think he would do that if i would use any plan. so no, no plans .

 

[Jarlhen]

I'm having no success with this tactic. I've played about 20-25 games with Southampton, season 4 total but 1st season for me. I win about 50% of the games we should win, 15% draw and the rest loss. Of the games we shouldn't win we lose 100%. Over 20 games in total my 3 strikes scored a total of 9 goals.

The tactic is allowing for plenty of shots on goal, but a lot of tactics do that. Clearly I'm missing something here. My team is solid, very solid. I've even got a couple of top notch strikers, yet they can't score at all. I have no problem conceding goals though.

 

[abbes]

I'm having no success with this tactic. I've played about 20-25 games with Southampton, season 4 total but 1st season for me. I win about 50% of the games we should win, 15% draw and the rest loss. Of the games we shouldn't win we lose 100%. Over 20 games in total my 3 strikes scored a total of 9 goals.

The tactic is allowing for plenty of shots on goal, but a lot of tactics do that. Clearly I'm missing something here. My team is solid, very solid. I've even got a couple of top notch strikers, yet they can't score at all. I have no problem conceding goals though.

i have exactly similar story with Predator from TTF. god knows why it's not working for me as it working for other guys . well, anyway that's good that we have a lot of good tactics to try and use. thank god for fm-base .

 

[Jarlhen]

i have exactly similar story with Predator from TTF. god knows why it's not working for me as it working for other guys . well, anyway that's good that we have a lot of good tactics to try and use. thank god for fm-base .

Yeah, Predator is working amazingly for me. I just really like 4-3-3 tactics so I want this one to work

 

[abbes]

Yeah, Predator is working amazingly for me. I just really like 4-3-3 tactics so I want this one to work

i don't have screenshot right now, but i won league A with Macae, predicted 20 on 20, bets 5000:1, and second half of season i played with tactic based on that tweaked by ILoveLamp, u can find it here - http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/share-download-fm-15-tactics/331685-does-anyone-play-fmc.html
instant result with play for the win match plan, maybe try this one? it's 4-3-3 as well, it's working amazingly for me, home and away (;

 

[Fra]

Why don't you clean up the OP man?

It's really hard to understand.

With Fullbacks:
ILoveLamp tweak (posted in another topic) (no AF)
433 volliz original 2.0 (no AF)
433 volliz mod (AF)
BombardmentAway (JS tweak topic) (AF)

With wingbacks:
BombardmentHome (JS tweak topic) (AF)


These are the the lastest tactics right?

What about the set pieces in other tactics?

 

[ChelseaFC94]

I hope someone can help me. I'm just wondering what whould be best tactic for patch 15.3.2. Im playing with Rosario Central having decent results but nothing special, I do evey single thing that is in OP, I have pretty good team, but sometimes they play good,sometimes they just look like lower league team. I tried every single tactic, tweak them....everything! Still nothing. Hoping vOlliz will do something to this tactic to make it better. Cheers

 

[Fra]

Played always with 433 v0lliz mod.


League table (undefeated)

Competitions (won everything, FA CUP against Liverpool)

My team

 

[coolestrock]

Ive tried a few tactics, but the original one in particular and some of the various modding of it have to be some of the best tactics for 2015, so a huge thanks to Volliz .

I tend to see tactics and try them for a season, but keep coming back to this, its won me the World cup with England.

Brilliant Tactic, well worth giving it a go for those who havent tried it yet

 

[TommiHelm]

I'm back to using this tactic again, it's just to much fun. Using the original one on attacking mentality for the entire season. Assistant OIs and Attacking Movement 50% training.


Unbeaten in the league scoring 219 goals. Some games we concede a lot, but I don't really care any more. If we score 4 to 10 almost every game we can concede a couple for all I care. Overall we concede less than 1 per match though, so it's actually not that bad.

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All fixtures

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Won all but one game. Lost against Real Madrid away - Sorry, I mean against Keylor Navas.

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Using players like De Bruyne, Götze, Mata, Neymar, Rooney, etc. on the APM positions is what really tips it over in terms of goals I think. Creative forward type goal scorers. Ronaldo scored 76, guess he's getting old.

 

[marksmithlfc]

I'm back to using this tactic again, it's just to much fun. Using the original one on attacking mentality for the entire season. Assistant OIs and Attacking Movement 50% training.


Unbeaten in the league scoring 219 goals. Some games we concede a lot, but I don't really care any more. If we score 4 to 10 almost every game we can concede a couple for all I care. Overall we concede less than 1 per match though, so it's actually not that bad.

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All fixtures

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Won all but one game. Lost against Real Madrid away - Sorry, I mean against Keylor Navas.

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Using players like De Bruyne, Götze, Mata, Neymar, Rooney, etc. on the APM positions is what really tips it over in terms of goals I think. Creative forward type goal scorers. Ronaldo scored 76, guess he's getting old.

Can you post which version of the tactic you did all this with please ?

 

[TommiHelm]

Sure, it's this one : View attachment 231037

It's the very first one posted (the original), but I'm not sure it's in the OP any more. Only change I made was to throw ins - but I'm 99% sure it makes no difference if you have a player with the long throw ppm.

OI: I use Assistant with 18+ tactical knowledge (use a coach with it if I can't find an assistant, 18+ for clubs that can get someone with it obviously). I make sure the Assistant redo them 3-4 times per match, pre-match, half-time and around 70' when subs are made.

I arrange 8-10 friendlies before every season, at home against the worst teams I can find. I let my assistant play them - he's set to attend press conf. and tunnel interviews (if he has good motivation stat) and manage team in friendlies.

I set the tactic up in all 3 tactic slots.

For the friendlies I have team training set to General: Team Cohesion Very High at 50% (slider all the way to the left) - allow rest before and after and Match Prep: Match tactic.

After the last friendly match I change training to General: Team Cohesion Average at 50% and Match Prep: Attacking Movement allow rest after match, but not before match.

Individual training I just set to what ever I feel, but in general : Goalkeeper Defend, Central Defender Defend, Full Back Defend, Central Midfielder All, Adv. Playmaker All, Poacker Attack.

I ALWAYS try to get players with PPM possesses long throw. There's always options you can get almost no matter what team you are. Try Jonas Knudsen for DL and Eric Lichaj for DR for instance for around £2,5M total (do it over x months and you pay less than a million for 2 players that will basically win you 90% of the games you would otherwise draw/lose). And they are good enough to play in the ECC.

I set DL to take corners from right side and DR to take corners from left side (assuming DL has left foot and DR has right foot).

Setting up corner taker and throw in taker is VITAL! The formation is perfect for it and you won't get anywhere near the same results if you don't. So if you don't like corner/throw-in abuse, don't bother.


I'm playing with Ajax first season right now. Imo the worst Ajax team since I don't even know when. But we're cruising.

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Some losses, but overall we're just scoring for fun and over-performing as expected. Using Knudsen and Lichaj as the full-backs.

Here's the Man Utd game. You see we actually gave them a good fight. LVG likes playing 343 though and that's one of the formations this tactic really struggle with defensively. Still if we had some better attackers we could easily have scored 5-6.

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Here's the two other losses. As you can see we didn't deserve to lose any of them. Especially the Excelsior one.

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And here's a typical win against probably the best team in this league PSV.

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The central striker is the one scoring most of the goals. Arkadiusz Milik is my choice at Ajax, he's got 34 in 21 so far. And imo he's not that good. I'd never consider buying him for a top European club.


Anyway, this tactic will give you amazing success if you just stick with it and don't mind the occasional crazy high scoring game. I've decided that I don't mind conceding a few goals as long as I win in the long run. Plus the amount of goals you can score sometimes is just to much fun.