***THE BETTER HALFS TACTIC UPLOAD & DISCUSSION

Finally given up with using my own tactic and going to use one from on here. Which one would you recommend, TheBetterHalf?

I am looking for exciting football, not too bothered about results :)
 
cubsonart said:
i play on 13.3.3 with a custom database of players
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The Hook

361, The Gyroscope

I would recomend any of these, perhaps also use the FC-FC-AMC tweak for the gyro ( if having many FCs).

I also have a tactic that I am going to upload tomorrow that works well along with these, a more defending version. I will upload it here for you. ( called the Torpedo). Here, its build from the Gyroscope and the AMCleft drops into MCleft, the DPL is still the DPL ( but in MCR) and the DMC/support is still a DMC/support
 
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Shiraz said:
Finally given up with using my own tactic and going to use one from on here. Which one would you recommend, TheBetterHalf?

I am looking for exciting football, not too bothered about results :)
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I would probably recommend the same tactic as in the answer above this one. Perhaps go for the Gyro with FC-FC-AMC


here is a screen from the first half when using my reserves, using the "The 2 Torpedos" ( its the MCleft and AMC that are the torpedos)

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felton92 said:
It doesn't have to be. I always refrained from the new style of tactics as I wasn't sure how to do the shouts properly and I've always found classic easier :P

Which non classic tactic would you suggest? Any tips for a first timer going on to the newer style of tactics?

Thanks!
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Why not have a look at this one. Here, its two versions. One using a higher press and one a lower press. I will also include in this post, a version called "HIGH PRESS VERSION TT - TBH DIRECT COUNTER Narrow 41221 Box. Its a version using high press, but for TopTeams

Underdog Direct Counter - Narrow 41221 BOX


If wanting to use Wingers, then have a look at the "Flat 442, Compact BOx". Here, you both have a 442 and a 4411
 
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cubsonart said:
Ok i will try with the Gyroscope, but when playing Liverpool i have Johnson on the right side in the defense, and on the left side Enrique and Robinson, who are not used in this tactic... little damage
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I think they will be great as MR/L in the Gyroscope ( and the 2 Torpedos). In some matches when you are the clear favourite and the far better team, then use more attacking wingers, but in most games, I think Johnson and Enrique will be the better choice
 
A flat 4411 has been included as an attachment in the "FLAT 442, The Compact Box"
 
cubsonart said:
Do you think it will be a good tactic also for Udinese ?
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In theory, It should work with any squad that has the correct squad and if it looks to suit them, then it will.

If a team on the other hand as an example has great AMR/L as their best players, then this approach might be wasteful as you wont be able to play your best players where they do the most damage.
 
TheBetterHalf said:
In theory, It should work with any squad that has the correct squad and if it looks to suit them, then it will.

If a team on the other hand as an example has great AMR/L as their best players, then this approach might be wasteful as you wont be able to play your best players where they do the most damage.
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So it isn't a tactic for underdogs in their leagues. Do you have a tactic for underdogs like Cardiff, Hellas Verona for example ?
 
cubsonart said:
So it isn't a tactic for underdogs in their leagues. Do you have a tactic for underdogs like Cardiff, Hellas Verona for example ?
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You can use it with underdogs, no problem, I have done so with good results. You won't actually win the league with Hellas though: But in general, those underdogs and lesser teams often have quick wingers as their best players, then the Direct 451 might be better. But, I don't know their squads as such.
 
I play with Liverpool for test this tactic, and will start with Udinese soon
 
cubsonart said:
I play with Liverpool for test this tactic, and will start with Udinese soon
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Then do the following

- Analyze the squad to see where your strengths and weakness lies
- With that information in mind, setup a realistic goal for what you want to achieve the first season
- Think about what kind of formation and approach that in real life/realistically are more likely to see you achieve those goals
- Then either use any of my tactics, other uploads or one of your own that matches that approach the most

My point here is that without knowing where your strengths and weakness lies, its impossible to use the correct approach that makes you use your best players where they do the most damage whilst still being able to keep a solid defensive shape making up for your weaknesses.

It might be that your squad lacks player able to break the pattern but dwells on pure physique and teamwork. Then a more direct and ugly approach is the best. It might be that your DCs are really slow, then you might need to play deeper with a DMC sitting in front. It might be that you will face team ( not that likely here) sitting deep and you need to see if your team is good enough to use a probing style of play, stretching their defence or if you should go for a more overloading gung-ho style as you have the physique for it etc etc
 
The Slightly misleading Match Stats

What is a longshot ? Well, in FM, its not the pace of the ball, the risk of taking it, its basically when the shot is taken from a certain distance form the goal, its counter as a Long shot. In the game below, we scored 5 goals. ONe was from a corner but all the other 4 where from these so called Long shots.


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Now, if looking at the stats only and not including the goals, it looks like we had the most of the possesion ut Hull restricted us into taking shots from distance, shots taken in vain. Now, this is not true at all. All 4 of these shots where after their defence had been torn apart and one of our player turned up late just outside the box and just slotted it in in one of the corners, without any of their players being even near blocking those shots.

Now, the reason why I am posting this is not to promote any of my uploaded tactics, but to encourage you to watch the game and use the analxying tool. As you see beneath



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The Header

Now, this is a similair example. Here, a player with great jumping, heading can put the ball into the net after a brilliant cross but it will still not be counted as a real chance. Again, if looking too much at the match stats only, you might miss out on what is important and go on adjusting the tactic to get more " good chances", instead of actually looking at the goals in the re-run/analyze toól and try to create even more of these chances that scored you the goals or almost did. In my experience, this is one of the big reasons people tend to tweak their tactics into actually becomming worse.
 
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